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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001 08 13 Consent H Approval of the August 2, 2001 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM H Consent X Informational Public Hearings Regular August 13.2001 Regular Meeting Mgr. / Dept. Authorization CONSENT H. Office Of The City Clerk Approval Of The Minutes Of The August 2,2001 Special City Commission Meeting. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING AUGUST 2,2001 I. CALL TO ORDER The Special Meeting of Thursday, August 2,2001 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at 6:32 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). ROLL CALL: Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present Commissioner Cindy Gennell, absent City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:34 p.m. II. REGULAR REGULAR A. City Manager Requesting Direction From The City Commission Relative To The Leerdam Property Acquisition. Mr. Ronald W. McLemore, City Manager introduced this Agenda Item and spoke of an "Urgent" Memorandum that had been forwarded to the Commission. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:34 p.m. Manager McLemore suggested to the Commission that we had several options, which he identified as either "Stay where we are, take our case directly to the Governor and Cabinet and let it fall where it will fall, or be ready to put in $700,000.00 or $800,000.00 of acquisition of land to try to get a favorable decision." Mr. Charles C. Carrington, AICP, Community Development Department Director addressed the Commission about the actual site plan that has been submitted to the State and reviewed plans with the Commission. Discussion. Commissioner Michael S. Blake suggested, "My recommendation would be do as we have been doing and work hard on the Governor and Cabinet next week." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 2 OF 12 Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. stated, "I think that we can persuade them to go along with us." Commissioner Martinez further said, "If we need to make a decision tonight, I guess we'd have to - based on what you're saying, to be able to go up there and tell them, this is what the Commission has decided and it's up to you." "Alternative A" was then discussed. With further discussion, Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I think we should fall back on Commissioner Martinez's comments." Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod suggested that we "Try to use some leverage - the City is concerned enough about that, that the Commission is willing to go out on Referendum on buying the Parker Property that adjoins it for the simple reason of trying to make - overflow we need in Central Winds itself. If this happened - to fall through, has anybody explored the fact - on 419 through that power easement that runs along the Industrial Park, because that basically is non-utilized property that really can't be used for anything underneath there, other than a parking lot." Manager McLemore said, "My understanding is that's where the County is trying to take the Trail now..." Deputy Mayor McLeod added, "... They're trying to take it down there, I mean as far as the track, but along that area there is about an acre, at least one acre in front of the school property down there, and another acre or two in front of the property of the junkyards. And then all the way down underneath that easement, there is acreage all through there, that probably would be a second alternative you'd need to possibly be looking at, if this should fall through." Deputy Mayor McLeod's recommendation was "To continue forward as Commissioner Blake has mentioned, to continue to press them to purchase the property and for us to do the development; and it's kind of really what I heard Commissioner Miller saying, even though he referred back to Commissioner Martinez, that was to press forward and try to get the acquisition of property and I think that's important. " Mayor Partyka advised Manager McLemore, "We've got four (4) Commissioner's basically saying the same thing, press forward." Mayor Partyka spoke of local costs of property and added, "If Ballard thinks that $70,000.00 per acre is the highest they have ever paid, it's wrong. He needs to be reminded that the highest, I don't even think it's the highest but I think you could say very comfortably that they've already paid as much as two-thirty per foot, roughly $100,000.00 per acre." Commissioner Blake added, "I happen to know that the parcel that they purchased on the same program has been much more expensive than this - it was in Tampa." Mayor Partyka then said, "From my standpoint, I think that's the position we all can take - number one, we go for it." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2,2001 PAGE 3 OF 12 Commissioner Miller's asked for the dates of the upcoming meetings that will be held in Tallahassee, Florida. Mr. Carrington said that the Cabinet Aides Meeting will be on the 8th. Commissioner Miller added, "I think it would probably be good for as many of us here to go as possible, so include me in your list to go to Tallahassee. Mr. Carrington then said, "The important meeting for the Elected Officials to attend is the one before the Governor and Cabinet - that's the one on the 14th." "I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE PROCEED WITH 'ALTERNATIVE B,' PENDING THE DECISION OF THE GOVERNORS OFFICE IN SO FAR AS THE FUNDING IS CONCERNED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Manager McLemore said to Mr. Carrington, "Charles, I need to get with you on that communication back to them. We have to be very careful about the way we say it." ADD-ON REGULAR B. Finance Department Requesting The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2001-35, Computing The Proposed Millage Cap For Fiscal Year 2001-2002, Establishing The Rolled- Back Rate And Setting The Date, Time And Place Of A Public Hearing To Consider The Tentative Millage Rate And Tentative Budget For Fiscal Year 2001-2002. Ms. Louise Frangoul, Finance Department Director addressed the Commission and advised them the 3.84 mills set at the July 24, 2001 Budget Workshop was probably not going to be high enough. Ms. Frangoul explained that, "At that Budget Workshop we had felt that 3.84 in terms of the millage rate would be adequate to cover all of the wish lists of the Commission at that point in time, even though they aren't final decisions. They'll be agreed upon at a later point in time, but we wanted to make sure that cap, that millage cap was adequate to cover everything, in case you all voted for everything. Since that point in time, in fact late Tuesday afternoon, it has come to my attention that that millage rate is likely not high enough. Funding the changes that you had requested at the Budget Workshop left us about $11,000.00 into fund balance. I also found out from the Insurance Agent yesterday that the quote that she gave us for the POS plan that we factored into that change was a quote as of July 1 st. We're actually going with the new plan January 1 S\ when we're up at the Florida League. She felt that there was a CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 4 OF 12 likelihood that that quote would no longer be good and it might likely be higher. In addition, at the Budget Workshop Commissioner Blake had requested that we not only fund the pre-January premiums, but we also fund the pre-October benefit levels. I didn't understand that. I funded only "the pre-January premiums, but I left the POS plan as the current one that she had quoted us." Furthermore, Ms. Frangoul stated that "I don't know what those likely increases would be, so one of the things that I wanted to do tonight is relay that to you, so that we could set a millage rate at a cap high enough to encompass that, if you all so choose." Ms. Frangoul suggested that her recommendation for a cap at 3.94 would be adequate for "Going back to a pre-October POS plan and what the January rates would be." Manager McLemore added, "Just to point out this again as stated, is to give you further time to study the issues, without being closed out." "MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS RESOLUTION 2001-35 SETTING THE MAXIMUM TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR THE CITY IN FISCAL YEAR 2002 AT 3.94 MILLS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. ADD-ON REGULAR C. Finance Department Requesting The City Commission Review Information Regarding The Status Of The Utility Billing Computer Conversion. Ms. Frangoul gave a presentation to the Commission regarding this Agenda Item. Tape 1/Side B Furthermore, Ms. Frangoul explained what measures would be taken to solve previous problems, and added, "I in turn will try to keep you abreast as other problems arise, so that you will be better prepared to discuss any issues with your constituency." Mayor Partyka asked, "A month from now, one month, will these problems be fixed?" Ms. Frangoul responded, "I feel that they will be." Commissioner Miller then added, "Your comment about one month, I'm going to hold you to that." Ms. Frangoul stated, "Okay." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 5 OF 12 Commissioner Miller further identified some of the problems that he was aware of and stated, "With all the other things going on that are a problem with the billing system, it happened at the most incredibly bad time for the City, so I would like to get a consensus from this Commission that the City Manager personally look into this and bring us, at the next Commission Meeting, some reassurance that everything is being done to correct this problem within thirty (30) days; and if we need to throw more money at it, I think we need to do that very shortly." Commissioner Miller added, "I'd like Ron McLemore to personally get involved in this issue and do whatever has to be done. If we have to have people bum the midnight oil to get everything up and running in thirty (30) days, let's do it. " Commissioner Blake commented, "I think that Staff has done a really fine job of trying to work through this conversion." Commissioner Blake then spoke of problems that he was aware of. Commissioner Blake specifically spoke of his last (personal) bill which showed forty (40) days between the read dates; and the problems with the tiered rate structure. Discussion. Commissioner Blake added, "We need to do something about that problem. " Mr. Greg Bishop, Meter Services Manager advised the Commission that this has happened, "Primarily because of the shutdown from the old system to the new system for an entire week. We lost an entire week of productivity. What we have done for customers who have pointed that out to us, that they have fallen into that block, we have readily gone back in and adjusted their consumption, back to their normal block rates." Commissioner Blake commented, "It's how we handled that week delay, in our billing procedures and what we charged the customer for and we admit we're wrong when - somebody brings it to our attention on their bill, we'll give them an adjustment, but everybody else will have to pay it. Ijust have a real problem with that." Manager McLemore suggested, "We need to - see how and what it takes to identify those people, so that everybody gets treated the same way." Commissioner Blake then said, "I would like to see us do something about that." Discussion ensued on the high tier water and low tier water structure. Deputy Mayor McLeod said, "I would have to agree with the Manager and Commissioner Blake and the rest of the Commissioners that we need to research that, whatever it takes, and it may take a couple of months, but at some point, they need to be credited back for that." Mayor Partyka suggested, "Just a thought, put that statement in the next bill saying we are researching whoever was mis-billed because of - something along those lines." Deputy Mayor McLeod pointed out, "I think the Manager understands what needs to be done." Manager McLemore said, "As long as it's in the record that that's your direction." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 6 OF 12 "I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO BACK THROUGH OUR RECORDS AND CHECK THEM FOR ANY EXTENDED BILLING TIME FRAME THAT MAY HAVE THROWN A PERSON INTO A HIGHER THAN HIS AVERAGE BILLING HAS BEEN, AND THEN RECTIFY THAT BILLING IN THE FUTURE, WITHIN THE NEXT SIXTY (60) DAYS AND TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE NEXT WATER BILL THAT YOU MAY BE RECEIVING A CREDIT IN THE FUTURE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD THEN STATED, "I'M GOING TO DROP THE LAST PART OF THAT, THE 'PUTTING IT IN THE WATER BILL' AT THIS TIME." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Commissioner Miller stated, "For the record, I would like the City Manager to bring us at least information on it, at the next Commission Meeting, on where this is all at - at the Meeting of the 13th of August." Mayor Partyka added, "Nice job reporting back." Mayor Partyka departed at 7:43 p.m. Deputy Mayor McLeod took over the Meeting at 7:43 p.m. ADD-ON REGULAR D. City Manager Requests The City Commission Schedule Workshop Dates To Present The Proposed Charter To Various Neighborhoods, As Stipulated In Resolution Number 2000-27. Manager McLemore discussed with the Commission about a general meeting at the Tuscawilla Country Club. Manager McLemore further stated that "We should try to get into the Highlands if we can get the Homeowners Association there to help promote a Meeting there; and we certainly should have, I think, a general meeting at City Hall; and we need to have a special edition of the Newsletter going out on this and the other two (2) Referendum issues." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2.2001 PAGE 7 OF 12 Manager McLemore stated, "We could check with Highlands Association tomorrow; and when the Newsletter goes out, we could put that out very quickly. We could announce a Meeting toward the end of this month at City Hall for everyone. If there are any other special places or special requests from people, we could certainly go to those." Commissioner Martinez suggested the "Oak Forest." Community. Manager McLemore responded, "We could try it." Manager McLemore suggested that "We could do it at Keeth Elementary or one of the schools." Commissioner Martinez added, "You can do the same thing that THOA does, go to the Country Club and pay a few bucks. It's important. " Commissioner Blake asked, "Which of these meetings do we need to be at?" Manager McLemore said that regarding the Commission, "I think you'd do good to attend as many as you can." Discussion ensued on the "structure" of the meetings; how they would be run; who should attend; and what dates. Manager McLemore added that "We should give out fact sheets that speak for themselves, and we should have a general overview of - all three (3) issues and then be there to answer questions." Commissioner Blake asked Attorney Garganese, "Are we required to hold any meetings?" Attorney Garganese responded, "There are no statutory requirements." Attorney Garganese handed out an Opinion Letter. Deputy Mayor McLeod suggested that in the past, "We went to the majority of the Homeowner's Associations and made an offer to attend at their next meeting, if they would then let us know what that date was." Deputy Mayor McLeod then suggested the "Ranchlands," "Winding Hollow," and "Seville Chase" communities. Deputy Mayor McLeod suggested that such meetings be held at a school to make sure that we can accommodate large crowds. Manager McLemore then asked the Commission if they would prefer that Ms. Marilyn Crotty from the Institute of Government assist or give a presentation on the proposed Charter revisions. The consensus of the Commission was that a Meeting of the City Commission would be held at Winter Springs High School on Thursday, August 30, 2001 at 7:00 p.m., regarding the three (3) Referendums. NOTE FROM THE CITY CLERK: As Winter Springs High School was not available on August 30, 2001, with a consensus of the Commission, it was agreed that the Commission Meeting on the three (3) Referendums would be held on Wednesdav. AUJ!Ust 29. 2001 at 7:00 p.m., at Winter Springs High School. The Commission then discussed if Ms. Crotty from the Institute of Government should assist with the presentation on the proposed Charter revisions. Deputy Mayor McLeod summarized that the consensus of the Commission was in favor of this and said, "I would suggest that you go ahead and have Marilyn corne down for the Commission." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2,2001 PAGE 8 OF 12 Deputy Mayor McLeod then said to Manager McLemore, "You're going to get back with us on any of the other Homeowner Associations?" Manager McLemore stated, "We'll call all of them and see if we can make arrangements for them." With the Special Election scheduled for Tuesday, September 4th, 2001, Deputy Mayor McLeod added, "We're basically on calJ if any of these Homeowner Associations are having their Meetings. If they are having a Meeting and when you get a hold of them and they're two (2) days from when you get a hold of them, I think you're just going to have to call the Commissioner's and see if they'll be there. I think I would try to be at their scheduled meeting if possible." Attorney Garganese commented on his Opinion Letter and summarized that "At the last Commission Meeting there was a question about the City's ability to advocate on behalf ofa Referendum." Attorney Garganese further explained that "The Supreme Court stated that Government leaders have a duty and a right to say which cause of action they think best in a Referendum, affecting their community but their actions should not be abusive or fraudulent." Furthermore, Attorney Garganese said, "There is support out there for the Commission to go out there and spread the information and state their opinions regarding the upcoming Referendums." Commissioner Martinez advised the Commission that the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association meeting is scheduled for Thursday, August 23, 2001. This meeting will be held at the Tuscawilla Country Club. As the Florida League of Cities Annual Conference is also scheduled for that date, Deputy Mayor McLeod said that he would attend the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association Meeting. Manager McLemore also said that he would attend this Homeowners Association Meeting. ADD-ON REGULAR E. City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Review A Status Report On The Town Center, And To Provide Staff With Direction The Commission Deems Appropriate Regarding A Design Issue With James Doran Relative To The Proposed Publix. Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item to the Commission, and with the help of Mr. Carrington, several different design renderings were shown. Tape 2/Side A Manager McLemore advised the Commission that "What we have is an argument among professionals" and then explained some of the possible alternatives. Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 9 OF 12 Deputy Mayor McLeod spoke of a previous occasion when there was a "Stalled point with Schrimsher - until a couple of Commissioners were able to sit down" and suggested that perhaps a couple of Commissioners could assist with this as "Mediators." Manager McLemore said that this was an acceptable suggestion to him. Commissioner Miller stated, "I am comfortable with 2. If the City Manager thinks it may be of some value for some of us to attend the meetings, I would not be adverse to 3. My opinion is we ought to just go with 2., and let the chips fall where they may." Commissioner Martinez said, "I cannot in true conscience vote for anything but 2., based on the recommendation of Victor Dover." Furthermore; Commissioner Martinez added, "The architect is recommending that, from what I read here, that we don't do this, and I am willing to go with Number 2., and 'Let the chips fall where they may,' as Commissioner Miller said." Deputy Mayor McLeod spoke of flexibility. Commissioner Blake stated, "Number 3. really gives us the best chance of moving forward on a step wise basis. Ifwe don't get there utilizing 'Alternative 3.,' then we still have' Alternative 4.' that we can go to as the next step." Commissioner Blake then said, "My recommendation is to go with 'Alternative 3.,' move to the next step, bring the parties to the table, have some new words at the table that perhaps some haven't seen or heard before and try to move forward to the picture that we ultimately want to be built." Commissioner Martinez added that the same could be done from "Alternative 2." on. Commissioner Miller asked about the time frame and said, "I'd like to be a volunteer." Further discussion followed on Staff level reviews, the "Town Center DRC," and design Issues. Commissioner Martinez asked Attorney Garganese, "Is it proper or correct protocol for Commissioners to sit at a meeting when they are going to work on this issue as the DRC?" Attorney Garganese responded, "It can be done ifit is noticed, properly noticed." Commissioner Miller then advised those in attendance that "I am in favor of 2., but I would be willing to entertain 3." "I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT ALTERNATIVE 3. AND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER SET UP THE MEETINGS AND INFORM THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE 10 OF 12 COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ SAID, "WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM PUBLIX PRESENT AT THE MEETING THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS BY PUBLIX THROUGH THE STATE AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE AND THE PARTY OBJECTING HERE; I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S PUBLIX." DISCUSSION FOLLOWED ON NOTICING THE MEETING. ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "DEFINITELY IF MORE THAN ONE COMMISSIONER SHOWS UP, IT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED AS A PUBLIC MEETING. IF ONE COMMISSIONER IS DELEGATED WITH SPECIFIC AUTHORITY TO MAKE A DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, THEN THE MEETING WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE NOTICED. BUT IF THAT ONE COMMISSIONER IS ATTENDING JUST TO OBSERVE AND HELP FACILITATE, THEN IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A PUBLIC MEETING." COMMISSIONER MILLER THEN SAID, "IN THAT CASE, I WILL LEAVE THE MOTION STAND THE WAY I MADE IT, BUT MY PERSONAL REQUEST TO BE INVITED, I WILL WITHDRAW THAT." DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD CLARIFIED THAT "WHAT THE MOTION IS AT THE PRESENT TIME IS BASICALLY TO SET UP A MEDIATION TEAM CONSISTING OF VICTOR DOVER AND JAMES DORAN AS THE ARCHITECTS, CITY STAFF, AND POSSIBL Y ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS. MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "RIGHT." DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD ADDED, "NOTHING TO DO AS DRC. IT WASN'T SPOKEN AS THE MOTION." .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE BELOW MOTION IS THE SAME AS THE MOTION NOTED A FEW PARAGRAPHS EARLIER, BUT WITH A REVISION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MILER. THE STATEMENT THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER WITHDREW, IS OF COURSE NOT SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING REVISED MOTION. .:..:. "I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT ALTERNATIVE 3. AND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER SET UP THE MEETINGS AND INFORM THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2, 2001 PAGE II OF 12 "I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DESIGNATE COMMISSIONER MILLER AND COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ TO SIT AS THE TWO COMMISSIONERS TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSIONS AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COMMISSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ STATED, "I RESPECTFULLY DECLINE. I AM GOING TO BE THERE AS AN OBSERVER." MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. Commissioner Miller inquired of Attorney Garganese, "There is going to be a meeting that takes place. If three or four of them show up and we don't say anything, and - we're just citizens, I think that is Commissioner Martinez's position. Is that correct, if we don't participate, we just observe, because that is the operative word - so, he is going to show up and sit there and not say anything and just observe. And if two or three other Commissioner's walk in and just observe, but don't participate, is that a violation of the Sunshine Law?" Attorney Garganese responded, "I don't think it's a violation, but under those circumstances, I would recommend that you advertise." "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION - COMMISSIONER MILLER AND MYSELF ATTEND AS THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMISSION. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Discussion ensued on when this meeting might take place. Deputy Mayor McLeod said to Mr. Carrington, "What I would suggest, if the rest of the Commission agrees with that, is that you work through all your issues up to the point of this wall. If they're willing to work with you on the wall where Victor Dover wants to be, then you work on through it. If this does not happen on the 10th, then I think Doran will have to meet somewhere on the 13th - to the 1 ih." With further input from Mr. Carrington, Deputy Mayor McLeod added, "Somewhere on the 15th, 16th, or 1 ih." Deputy Mayor McLeod then stated, "That meeting needs to be set up only for the discussion of that wall." Concluding this conversation, Deputy Mayor McLeod reminded those in attendance that "There was a request that Publix - be present." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 2,2001 PAGE 12 OF 12 III. ADJOURNMENT "MOTION TO ADJOURN." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Deputy Mayor McLeod adjourned the Meeting at 8:44 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: c1l[ ANDREA RENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY .i~AuL'P. PARTYKA. MAYOR NOTE: These minutes were approved at the Au gu s t 13 , 200 I Regular City Commission Meeting.