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HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2001 10 10 City Commission Special Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING OCTOBER 10, 2001 I. CALL TO ORDER The Special Meeting of Wednesday, October 10, 2001 of the City Commission was called to order by Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod at 6:38 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). ROLL CALL: Mayor Paul P. Partyka, arrived at 6:47 p.m. Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, absent Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present Commissioner Cindy Gennell, absent City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:44 p.m. Th.:. Pledge of Allegiance followed. II. AGENDA A. Community Development Department Requests That The City Commission Conduct A Special Meeting To Review The Recommendations Of Land Design Innovations (LDI) For The Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR) Based Amendments To The Housing, Recreation And Open Space, And Future Land Use Elements/Subelements Of The City Of Winter Springs Comprehensive Plan. City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced the Agenda and what would be covered tonight. Mr. Tracy Crowe, Principal Planner with Land Design Innovations, Inc. advised the CO!llI!1ission that regarding the "Recreation and Open Space, we have got a lot of changes in there, and recommendations, but also we have been told about a lot of new parks or proposed parks and whether we want to locate those on maps, or add those. That is still yet to be done - we still need to get that information from Staff" CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 2 OF 13 Ms. Crowe then stated that we have taken the "One Mixed Use category and dividing it back into Mixed Use, Town Center, and Greeneway Interchange. So, we have got the language in there for the three (3) categories now and then we've just finished updating the maps, changing those back and getting new acreage's; and then if you approve of this change, then we will go ahead and do the future projections based on this change." Commissioner Michael S. Blake stated, "This is fine for me. I am happy with it as long as there are other things going to be done on the map. I am prepared to move forward on this. " Manager McLemore asked about the Greeneway Interchange, "What is the significance of the ten (10) acres?" Ms. Crowe stated, "That's been actually something that's been going back and forth for several - and we had that highlighted for a long time in the text. It's something, it's a decision that you can make or you can definitely change tonight. To us it just seemed like a good standard. Anything ten (10) acres or under, since it's under small-scale threshold, that's what we were basing it on. That if you wanted to change something to Employment Center or to have a mix of uses that you really needed a size that was significant enough to put the mix of uses on there. If you wanted to have commercial up front and some like retail - and housing and office on a parcel, if you want the diversity then you've got to have enough acreage to do that. So we are recommending ten (10) but you can change that." Discussion followed. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:44 p.m. Further discussion ensued on the Greeneway Interchange District. }.1cyor Paul P. Partyka arrived at 6:47 p.m. Deputy Mayor McLeod stated, "Let the record show that the Attorney is here, and also the Mayor. Thank you, and the Mayor is going to take over the Meeting." Commissioner Blake suggested, "Maybe what we need is another word or two in there to suggest that it doesn't have to be one (1) individual parcel that has to be greater than ten (10) acres. But further define that it's the area that it's in that, the size of the Land Use category combined or the zoning district combined." Ms. Crowe stated, "Right, if several property owners wanted to come together and they each had one (1) acre parcels but they wanted to come together and create an Employment C, then they should be able to do that." Ms. Crowe stated further, "That would be simple to add language though, that it can be multiple property owners." With discussion, Manager McLemore stated, "I just want to be able to qualify an Interchange - that the whole Interchange area, the four (4) quadrants is what we are talking about." Ms. Crowe said, "I can strengthen that." Mayor Partyka stated, "Are we in agreement its going to be a Greeneway Interchange or is this gomg to be Interchange District? The Greeneway. All right." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 3 OF 13 Commissioner Blake stated, "Because many of those properties are not yet in the City but will probably be in the City at some point in time, while they may be contiguous to the City, they wouldn't necessarily be contiguous to the Greeneway Interchange District up front. And we wouldn't want to have to go through two (2) rezonings and two (2) Comp Plan Amendments for one that is a property or two (2) away, was only three (3) acres, was going to be part of the grand scheme, and should be planned effectively as grand scheme." Ms. Crowe stated, "It can definitely be stated if it's a part of the Master Plan. The main thing that we were trying to get it at is that there is a plan like there is for the Town Center; that there will be a coherent plan in the future for it and that they will have a Traffic Circulation, an Open Space, a Parks and Recreation. All of that will be thought out as a part of an overall Master Plan to allow for the mix of uses, allow buffers between anything that would be incompatible." Manager McLemore asked, "Right, but who would conduct that Master Plan?" Ms. Crowe said, "Well the City did it for the Town Center. You can either require it this time from private development. ..." Manager McLemore asked, "...If those lands are in the hands of different owners, which they will be in many cases, who is responsible for the overall Master Plan?" Manager McLemore agreed that, "It's going to have to be done by the City." "MAYOR, I MOVE WE TAKE OUT THE FIRST SENTENCE. THIS IS SECTION 'c.,' THE SECOND PARAGRAPH." COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "IT'S SECTION 'c.,' SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT READS 'TO ENSURE THAT THE GREENWAY INTERCHANGE DESIGNATION IS OF SUFFICIENT SIZE TO FUNCTION AS AN INTEGRATED UNIT. THIS DESIGNATION REQUIRES AN AREA THAT HAS A MINIMUM OF TEN (10) ACRES." DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD ASKED, "ISN'T THA T THE THIRD PAR.\GRAPH?" COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "NOT IN MY DOCUMENT, IT'S SECTION 'e.' AS IN EDWARD, UNDER GREENEWAY INTERCHANGE." DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD STATED, "YOU SAID 'c.' TWICE." COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "I MEANT - 'e.' - IF I SAID ANYTHING ELSE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. Manager McLemore suggested, "If we leave the sentence in - instead of using 'Requires an area' and we put in that it 'Requires a total area of not less than ten (10) acres' that tends to fix it for me. That would imply that there may be a number of different parcels around but not speaking to anyone parcel but of all the parcels - that total area must be ten (10) acres." Ms. Patricia A. Tyjeski, AICP, Senior Planner of Land Design Innovations, Inc. stated, "I definitely agree with that but I understand from what Commissioner Blake had just said that if you annex a piece that's not contiguous to any part of the current Employment Center and it's five (5) acres, then you can't make it Employment Center - I think it could be worded so if the Master Plan went beyond your boundarief; that you were considering an area, you could do that; and a lot of the cities are doing that, doing study areas.. ,," CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10, 2001 Page 4 OF 13 Manager McLemore added, "...1 agree and again I think all you've got to do is make sure you don't write yourself out with the word 'Contiguous.' Because it can be a planning area and the parcels may not be all contiguous at this point in time it's still a planning area." Mayor Partyka stated, "By eliminating the restriction on ten (10) acres... everything follows to your point I believe and also to your point and also talks to reality out there." Commissioner Blake said, "But perhaps there's a way to help - with DCA also if we put in there that 'To ensure the Greeneway Interchange Designation is' - put in there that the 'Area must be in the Greeneway Interchange planning area. '" Ms. Crowe said, "I would maybe give it a holding category and that's what we're talking about Rural transition or Low Density transition or there could be a transitional category or a holding category. In the counties, a lot of them have been doing that. But I wouldn't want to give it if it was one (1) acre; I wouldn't want to give it an Employment designation when it is that far out and let it all of a sudden throw up a gas station. So that's just something to consider." Ms. Crowe further stated, "As long as you have the Master Plan in place then 1'd feel fine about it. And if they're a part of it and you've extended your Master Plan beyond, and they're developing the way you want them to develop; but I just would be cautious about giving them any strong intense entitlements like that until there was a true Master Plan in place." Commissioner Blake stated, "They're not even in the City yet, so we're not granting any entitlements at all. What are the requirements of a Master Plan? Is a Master Plan a defined specific type of document that has to have certain elements or components required in it?" Ms. Crowe replied, "When we have been referring to this we have been referring to the Towr. Center Master Plan that you have right now - it could be a bubble plan though. It does not have to be done to the building or roof top level; it could be Land Uses laid out with a circulation pattern, proposed park areas on them, maybe it will say there is flexibility to this. Like right now, it says it must be similar or somewhat consistent with the Town Center but it doesn't have to be exactly like is shown on the Town Center. And the same could happen for an overall bubble Master Plan. But you've at least laid out that there is a certain area for Parks and whether it moves here or there or whatever, we're not going to throw that away. We're not going to lose the parks all together." "MAYOR, I REITERATE MY MOTION IF YOU FIND IT IN ORDER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. MAYOR PARTYKA STATED, "THE MOTION IS TO ELIMINATE THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IN SECTION 'e.'" ENTITLED GREENE.W A Y INTERCHANGE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 5 OF 13 VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. "I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT INCORPORATING THE CHANGES MADE THIS EVENING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Ms. Tyjeski introduced the changes to the Recreation and Open Space Element and stated the following changes: "The list that we had in that sentence did not include all the parks that offer passive and Active recreation, so we just included 'Some examples include.' We had a mention of a survey that was done when the EAR was prepared and we stated that there were 'No results available.' We just took that sentence out." Ms. Tyjeski then stated that "Objective number 1.3, it needed a heading, we just added a title to it. The Mikes land, we've renamed it throughout the document. Now we are calling it 'Tuscawilla Open Space' and we are going to make sure the text tables and everything refers to that new name." Regarding the Cross Seminole Trail, Ms. Tyjeski continued, "Commissioner Blake mentioned that there are some park areas that should be noted on the maps, the inventory maps and also the service area maps and we are going to include those. Policy number 1.1.2, we were requiring a distance of six (6) blocks for neighborhood parks, we translated that into miles, and - we put in 'one quarter of a mile. ", Further, Ms. Tyjeski continued, "The major issue that we talked about, about recreation was the need for a survey." Ms. Tyjeski added, "So, now we are recommending that a survey be done and we put specific items that should be included in that survey. The Parks Director wanted to add the amphitheater at the Central Winds Park to the list of multi-purpose fields, and those are just inventory." Tape I/Side B Ms. Tyjeski then advised the Commission, "You mentioned that in the future there may be a need to provide access to the lake. We didn't get into a lot of detail on this one, we are saying that it is something that can be added later on, and we will just make a note somewhere that in the future, there may be access provided to the lake." Ms. Tyj eski added, "I don't think I put a reference, but we are going to put something in the analysis. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 6 OF 13 We deleted the references to hunting. The boating is just a general statement. It is not saying the City of Winter Springs has to do that." Additionally, Ms. Tyjeski commented that "You mentioned that there were several Open Space areas in the City that we did not have in our Element. We have mentioned some of them, but, what Tracey [Crowe] was saying before, we need to get all that from Staff." In regards to the Open Space areas, Mayor Partyka asked, "Are you going to use those names still, Hickory Grove, Magnolia?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "As soon as we get the information from Staff we'll know what names to use. But those names were just brought up at the Meeting." Mayor Partyka asked, "In the Comprehensive Plan should we have these names or just list it as Open Space 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' so we don't get caught up in names?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "Yes, when you give us the information if it is a developer's agreement that calls it that we will say just as noted in the developer's agreement." Regarding the framework of the Element, Ms. Tyjeski stated, "We decided that we were going to get rid of all the LOS ('Levels of Service') even the standards that we were proposing as recommendations for Recreational Facilities. So we changed the language in the Policies and we're saying the City's going to have to have so many acres of Parks, and then we'll have Community Parks, Neighborhood Parks, and Mini-Parks. And we're specifically defining each of those parks; so if somebody says I want to put in a Community Park, it's not just a bunch of - open space. They know that they are going to have some facilities in that park. But we're not saying you going to have a soccer field and a baseball field. That's something that will come later. Now the issue of Recreational Facilities, the way we addressed it, we're saying that as soon as the City conducts a survey of recreational activities they are going to have to do a Master Plan. In that Master Plan, they're going to look at all the different parks that you have in the City, look at the State standards that we've mentioned in this Element as just State Standards, guidelines to use. And then you can come up with a plan. A plan that you're going to be able to enforce and eventually bring into this Element, but not until it's all done - with background survey and more specific information than what we had at this time." "Point of Order" by Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. Deputy Mayor McLeod asked, "Should we leave these as Hickory Grove, Magnolia, and Wetlands at this time?" Commissioner Blake stated, "She could easily just have a comment in there that the area is currently known as or something like that." Attorney Garganese stated, "That's fine it's just that those names are referenced in development agreements, so it's easy to cross reference them at this time. But you can put the language that you suggested in there that they're currently known as..." Ms. Tyjeski stated, "... We can even put a sentence that says to be renamed at the time of dedication or at the time of ...." Deputy Mayor McLeod stated, "... That would probably be wise to do that that way." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10, 2001 Page 7 OF 13 Discussion followed on the "Levels of Service" for Active and Passive Parks. Manager McLemon: asked, "If you define in the type of park what has to be in that park, then doesn't 1.1.6 become superfluous?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "Those are just the finishes they are not tied to the L.O.S." Manager McLemore said, "I think if it said Active areas, Passive areas, and Open Space areas, that would tend to work better for me from a logical point of view with Community Park, Neighborhood Park, and Mini-Park." Ms. Tyjeski added, "How about Active Recreation, Passive Recreation..." Manager McLemore stated, "... Yes, because it tends to set up another set of Parks - whereas what it really is, is a type of use within a Park. That would tend to make it make sense to me." Commissioner Blake asked, "This Tuscawilla Open Space, formerly known as the other property, what heading is that under here?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "Open Space." Commissioner Blake said, "I see Overall Park land, Community Neighborhood Parks. I don't see which one of those three (3) designations is it listed in, if at all." Ms. Tyjeski stated, "We didn't establish an Open Space L.O.S. and that would fall under that category of Open Space. We figured that the Conservation Element already has provisions for Open Space." Manager McLemore stated, "Well, what we're saying is that acreage - sixty (60), sixty- five (65) acres - you would not get credit under your L.O.S. for that property because it's Open Space only. It's Passive recreation only. And what is the difference between Passive Recreation and Open Space, or are they the same?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "That one we had not included. Originally we had not included any Open Space lands because then we would have to have medians and dedicated wetland areas; we had not included that originally. I see now that we put it in, we put in as Open Space, and then we totaled parks including that. Well, technically it is not a Park or - a Recreational Facility." Manager McLemore stated, "And that's fine. I am just saying let no one be confused that, that sixty-five (65) acres, you're not going to get any credit for that under your 'Level of Service' concurrency requirements for park land. Now originally - in our current plan you would get credit, but you will not under this." Ms. Tyjeski said, "If you want to include Open Space with the overall that's fine. We can maybe change the number to include Open Space. We had just left Open Space out of the L.O.S." Discussion. Ms. Crowe recommended, "There needs to be a Parks and Recreation Master Plan done for the City. It needs to start with a survey and that's what we're recommending; and maybe we need to add some language in here saying that the Master Plan itself - we'll also look at the 'Level of Service' standards at that point. But you also need to evaluate each and every park that you have that's existing, and whether it's maxed out, it's used at it's complete efficiency; if you want to make it Passive in the future is it possible, what's on the site. All that needs to be done, but it's not going to happen in this time frame that we have here." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER J 0,2001 Page 8 OF 13 Commissioner Blake asked, "And if we do that, that sounds fine to me, where do we stand with this?" Ms. Crowe replied, "I would do an overall and it sounds like at this point, that you all had included it in the past and maybe we should go back and include everything; all acreage that you have, whether it's Open Space, Community, Neighborhood, Mini-Park, that that's an overall acreage if it's five (5) per thousand or whatever, but that's the standard for now but that needs to be evaluated in the Master Plan when that's done. And it can be changed." Manager McLemore said, "Personally, I think we could sit down and re-structure this pretty easily to make it work." Ms. Crowe then stated, "I think from the Commission tonight we can be given direction. Then if you want an Open Space 'Level of Service' and you want a 'Level of Service' for Community and Neighborhood Parks if you wanted - overall, you can give us that direction. We can go work it out and then that way we can bring it back during the Transmittal Hearings in that format; and you can still make a change if you want at the Transmittal Hearing before it goes to the State. But I think we can at least get that direction because I know the City Manager would need that direction too, which way you want to support that. Do you want an Open Space 'Level of Service?'" With further discussion, Manager McLemore said, "I think where I'd rather go with it, to be honest with you, is go to the concept of the Community Wide Park." Further discussion ensued on current local parks and "Levels of Service." "Point of Order" by Commissioner Martinez who spoke about making a decision on this issue. "I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE MAY NEED TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE MANAGER, STAFF AND YOURSELF AND BROUGHT BACK TO US." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD. DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD THEN ADDED, "I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE ELEMENT RIGHT NOW IN RECREATION, TO CONTINUE TO BE WORKED ON AND BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER DATE." MANAGER McLEMORE ASKED, "LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS FOR PURPOSES OF TRANSMITTAL OR DO YOU WANT US TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION?" DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD REPLIED, "LET'S CORRECT IT BEFORE WE TRANSMIT IT. THAT'S MY MOTION." SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10, 2001 Page 9 OF 13 Discussion developed on the Housing Element. Commissioner Martinez inquired about page III-12 b. the Housing for Special Populations and said, "Table III-41 shows the pr0jected demand, etcetera, etcetera; but III-41, has 'Goals, Objectives, And Policies;' it has n0 Tables whatsoever." Ms. Tyjeski stated, "Just ignore those Table numbers." Discussion developed on affordable housing. Commissioner Blake asked, "Pat how did you get the income levels?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "All of that is from Shimberg [Center]. They take the 1990 Census, 1995 estimates, and they look at income categories and then they start projecting that into the future. So all these numbers are based on the situation the way it was is 1995, 1990 actually." Commissioner Blake said, "Well, we just might make a finding that their numbers are wrong because Winter Springs is a different place." Ms. Tyjeski advised, "We did put in a Policy that says the City is going to need to revise this when the 2000 Census, the housing statistics come out. Because you know, we know that the City has provided some affordable units; so these numbers that Shimberg is giving us are not reflected of what the City has right now." Further discussion. Ms. Tyjeski advised the Commission, "You don't have the responsibility to provide housing for all these people, it's not like you're going to get into building housing for low income rel;idents. What this is telling you is that you have to be aware that by the year 20 10 you're going to have a certain percentage of people that can't afford housing and what is the City going to do to help them. And the position that we took that we're recommwding originally, was maybe look at your regulations; take a look at your Land Development Regulations and see if you can do something there to relax the Codes to - allow those people who want to build affordable housing to come to the City. We had looked at - fees, a housing trust fund, maybe requiring developers that if they're going to have a 100 unit subdivision that they provide a percentage of those units as affordable units. We have come up with some ideas on how to facilitate a provision of the affordable housing. That's as much as the City can do. DCA does not require that the City actively go and get into programs like the one you just did for Moss Cove. They're not saying that you have to do that. You're not in the business of providing housing." Tape 2/Side A Commissioner Blake stated, "I am simply not comfortable with what we have here so far:' Further discussion followed on what is required to be included in this Element and the h<':,using situation in this community. Ms. Tyjeski advised the Commission, "We didn't have anything specific that says you are going to provide housing for 4,000 people. We're saying that you're going to try your best at meeting that demand and you're going to investigate the need to change the Code, and you're going to research the need to waive Impact Fees. We're not committing to do any of these things." Manager McLemore said, "As long as we're not tied to a quota we have to fulfill, I don't have a problem. That's my concern." Ms. Tyjeski said, "And if you look at our answers to your concerns, those first two (2) pages, we're saying we're not having the City commit to anything specifically. The only CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 10 OF 13 commitment that we're saying at the very first Policy and Objective is that the City is expected to grow by so many people - the City has no plan to provide for those units. That's the only thing that we're saying is the City's going to provide housing for the population projection. But we're not going into the specifics of - the City is going to have to get into any projects to provide - we're not committing to anything." Commissioner Blake asked, "Are we meeting the demand that exists? I think we are. And are we able to meet a continuing demand, whether it goes up or down? It could go either way." Manager McLemore said, "I think the Shimberg tends to say 'No, you're not, that you have these deficits, and that's where I am having problems. Again, as long as we're not tied to having to meet that goal - are they going to cut off your revenue sharing or whatever." Ms. Tyjeski stated, "We put in a Policy that says that when you do your LDR's, the Land Development Regulations, you may consider putting a restriction on the size of an affordable housing development. That they either have to mix it with different types of income so that it's more like a smart growth concept, or you have to provide a variety of types of housing - and that maybe that limit will either turn them away, or they'll just do small projects - easier to manage to handle and to blend into the Community. And we're not putting anything in here as to how many units because I think that needs to be researched - you have to go and look at other communities." Ma)'or Partyka asked, "Can you do any kind of wording that fulfills DCA requirements but also understands what we're not trying to be?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "We're putting a lot of stuff in here that DCA would be happy with. Yes, the City is going to look at Impact Fees and see if they can do something about it. The City is going to look at the Land Development Code and see if they can do something about it. They're going to look at the one that says 'Have a cap for affordable housing projects.' I don't know how they would see that." Ms. Tyjeski added, "But it is something we can send in and see what happens," Manager McLemore said, "I'm not actually saying we want to put a cap on it either. I am just saying I don't want something that ties us to a quota." Furthermore, Manager McLemore stated, "We want on-site managed units, by document, by contract, by association documents." Commissioner Blake added, "Can we put that in the Codes." MallG'oger McLemore then said, "Managed rental units are very important. I thought I saw you put that - that's what we wanted to encourage." Ms. Tyjeski said, "It says that in the LDR's." Manager McLemore then remarked, "What we want are managed rental units and we want home ownership." Commissioner Blake referenced page III-7 and said, "It's number 4. but, I don't see a Policy that was written for it." Ms. Tyjeski stated, "A lot of these issues we had a response, but we were waiting for Commission direction. If you agree with that, ifthat's what you want to do. We only made the changes that we felt most comfortable making." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page II OF 13 Discussion. Attorney Garganese asked Ms. Tyjeski, "Do you know whether Winter Park did their own data analysis for their Housing Element?" Ms. Tyjeski stated, "I can check on it." Th~ Commission agreed to go point by point through the Housing Element addendum: Ms. Tyjeski began by saying, "Adding a Statement - just saying that the community - smart growth - so the first one, if you are agreeable, put that into the introduction of the Element. Number two, we talked to the City Manager about the fact that the City may do something with the County so that the County my take care of providing most of the rentals for low income residents - the City has to demonstrate that they are doing it, or they are going to do it. If there is some type of an agreement with the County, we need to know, or we need to know what the status is of those conversations, so that we can put it into the Element. If the County has agreed to do anything or if it just starting at this point." Manager McLemore asked, "Outside of our boundaries, or inside our boundaries?" Ms. Tyjeski replied, "For them to provide rentals outside..." Manager McLemore said, ".. .We have not had that discussion." "We would want to look into that," said Manager McLemore. Ms. Tyjeski then said, "We need to know what you want to do." Ms. Tyje::;ki stated, "Policy 1.3.5. It should be 1.3.4." Regarding this statement, Commissioner Blake suggested, "Just change the Policy 1,3.4 - just change the last three (3) or foUl' (4) words to say, 'In the provision of home ownership' - 'Locally managed rental for owner occupied housing.'" Furthermore, Ms. Tyjeski said, "The issue about not encouraging rentals, concentrating on home ownership; we are suggesting that to address that issue you can put in a policy that says that "The Land Development Regulations will incorporate certain criteria for the provision for the provision of portable housing units. The City may want to limit the size of an affordable housing complex to avoid concentration, require a mix of housing types and costs, and may also require a strong local management company for rental developments, " Ms. Tyjeski then remarked that "Affordable housing projects should only be allowed if they are well done and an asset to the community. And, we're saying that we are going to put in a few things in the LDR's that would guarantee that." Ms, Tyjeski next advised the Commission that regarding "Encouraging the rehab of older units - we are putting in a policy that says, 'Discouraging the concentration of affordable units; encouraging the provision of affordable housing within older neighborhoods through the Infill Development; and establishing a maximum size for new stand alone housing developments." Commissioner Blake suggested using the words "Revitalization or Redevelopment" instead of "Infill Development." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 12 OF 13 Additionally, Ms. Tyjeski stated that, "Number seven was taken care already by number four; and number eight, the City Manager felt that maybe if you were going to get into rental, you would need a Housing Authority." Commissioner Blake then stated, "Again, we covered that by number four, also by requiring outside management.' Next, Ms. Tyjeski said, "Updating the numbers for number nine. Number ten, the City Manager instructed us to just follow 9J5 to the minimum, and that is what we are trying to do." Ms. Tyjeski then explained that regarding number twelve, "We are taking that number out." The Commission was advised by Ms. Tyjeski that, "One of the requirements for the Housing Element is that you have to do - an inventory for housing conditions. We didn't have that and we just got away by saying that the inventory is so new, most of the houses are less than fifty (50) years old. We felt that it was not necessary at this time. But we have a Policy that says that you're going to have to do one. And when you do that, you're going to figure out how many substandard units, and you're going to have definitions of those standards, substandard, deteriorating. When the results come in you're going to know how may deteriorated units you have, or how many substandard you have and where they are, so the Code Enforcement Staff will be able to focus on those areas and try to bring them up to Code." "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CHANGES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, AND DIRECT THE STAFF TO GO BACK AND GIVE FUTHER CONSIDERATION TO THOSE STATISTICAL ISSUES IN CLEANING UP WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO US AND BRING IT BACK TO US AGAIN." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. III. ADJOURNMENT "MOTION TO ADJOURN." MOTION. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE COMM!SSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRlNGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING - OCTOBER 10,2001 Page 13 OF 13 Mayor Partyka adjourned the Meeting at 8:47 p.m. . " '-PAUL ~,;p~Y'KA MA. Y0R + '/, ~ .:. ,.. . "'; # ="': NOTE: These 'llinutes were approved at the November 12,2001 Regular City Commission Meeting.