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WORKSHOP
JUNE 19,2000
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of June 19, 2000 of the City Commission was called to order by Deputy
Mayor Cindy Gennell at 5 :00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, absent
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
Deputy City Clerk Tania Haas, present
II. WORKSHOP AGENDA
Discussion Of General Issues Pertaining To The Town Center.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore noted the purpose of the meeting was to "Get a
sense of the proposal by James Doran"; what is being asked in the Agreement; the issues;
and seeking the Commission's direction. Manager McLemore discussed the Agreement
being a "Contingent type contract"; the mechanics of the Agreement and obtaining the
formal Agreement.
Mr. Chip Carrington from Lowndes, Drosdick, P.A., representing the James Doran
Company, identified for the Commission that James Doran Company (JDC) is the
contract purchaser for the property in the adopted Town Center. Mr. Carrington further
discussed the proposed Developer's Agreement; elements discussed with Manager
McLemore and Staff; JDC donating lands needed for the Town Center; and Main Street.
Mr. Carrington further spoke on the eleven (11) foot strip around Tuskawilla Road; the
east boundary of the property; the donated parcel; the proposed park; as consideration for
the donated land the City would install water and sewer to the boundary of the property;
the Developer running the lines internal within the site; a nine (9) to twelve (12) month
timeframe; the Agreement to include a twelve (12) month time frame for running water
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and sewer; the construction of Main Street; a provision of a twelve (12) month timeframe
for the construction of Main Street; an Agreement with the School Board to allow for the
expansion of stormwater facilities; JDC's contribution; installation of infrastructure; and
retail development.
Discussion continued on "Phase I" of the conceptual site plan; creating what Victor
Dover envisioned; the proposal of three (3) site plans as an attachment to the Developer's
Agreement (Phase I, II and III); a provision related to Hickory Grove Park; the City's
obligation to construct Hickory Grove Park Road upon JDC proceeding into Phase II;
right of way needed for Hickory Grove Park Road; retail development; and which issues
would be immediate expenses for the City. "Phase I" development items further
discussed included: the proposed 44,000 square foot grocery store anchor; and the
proposed 15,120 square foot drug store.
Commissioner Blake noted he would like the proposed 10,500 square foot building
located on Phase II to be added to Phase 1.
Manager McLemore discussed the new Sales Tax Referendum; the City's financial
participation to the project; the main feature being the build out of Main Street; City
Codes; Main Street two-story building requirement preference; facades for one-story
buildings; problems with parking; timeframes; trying to obtain an agreement with the
School Board within 60-90 days; and reasonable projections on dates.
Manager McLemore informed the Commission "I did have an Agreement from
Blumberg, they have agreed with the State on acquisition of their property which includes
Hickory Park and the balance of that right-of-way which involves acquisition on the
City's part is what's needed in order to make the site plan work for you, and we have
been negotiating on a price with them."
Manager McLemore commented on the June 16, 2000 Memorandum from Shane Doran
of the James Doran Company. Specific items discussed included the twelve month
timeframe; extension of water and sewer to the boundaries; the right -of- way for Hickory
Grove Park; and the timeframe for the School Board Agreement.
Discussion ensued regarding the negotiations with the School Board; enhancement to the
project with School Board participation; the stormwater issue; and consistency with
Victor Dover's plan; and possible limitations.
Mr. Shane Doran, Vice President of the James Doran Company continued discussion on
useable acres; the shape of the property; strip center; parking; date for the proposed
timeframe; the stormwater issue; the timing of Main Street; and attracting tenants.
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell inquired from Manager McLemore if Diane Kramer,
Facilities Planner, Seminole County School Board had been contacted and Manager
McLemore responded "Yes, she seemed to be very open to this."
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Additional items discussed included: what we are asking the School Board for; excess
capacity; The Town Center Master Plan; the existing pond on the Town Center Master
Plan; the stormwater pond; maintenance of the pond; removal of trees; wetlands;
construction of the pond; cost of construction; filling in the old pond; allocated funds;
infrastructure; rebuilding the stormwater system; the twelve (12) month timeframe to
construct Main Street; permitting timeframe; realistic timeframe; and the real issue being
the timing on stormwater.
Manager McLemore continued his "Discussion Points" with the Members of the
Commission. Topics included: general acceptance of site plans; locking in a site plan;
possible changes to the site plan; Victor Dover's review; variations to Phase I, II, and III;
final engineering; and preliminary indications from the City.
Deputy Mayor Gennell inquired if the buildings located along the unnamed street near
Magnolia Square and Hickory Grove Park (depicted on Phase II and III) where one or
two-story buildings and noted her preference of two-story buildings along Main Street,
and cited this as a concern. Discussion ensued regarding the Code as it relates to two-
story buildings along Main Street and State Road 434. Further items discussed included:
the economics of Phase III; level of intensities; and parking garages.
Commissioner Blake inquired as to the expected timeframe of completion for Phase II
and Phase III. Mr. Doran responded twenty-four (24) to thirty-six (36) months for Phase
II and Phase III depended on market conditions and densities. Commissioner Blake noted
his concerns with the language used for "Special Exceptions." Discussion ensued
regarding "Special Exceptions"; and the Town Center Code. Further items discussed
included: financing; Tuskawilla Road; impact fees; Sales Tax Referendum; future road
projects; water and sewer fees for Phase I and II; internal connections; expansion
systems; and utilities. Commissioner Blake restated his concern of having the proposed
10,500 square foot building located on Phase II to be added to Phase I.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller requested a list from Manager McLemore as to which
projects would be impacted if the New Sales Tax Referendum is not obtained. Discussion
continued on the "New Sales Tax Referendum" being on the May 2001 ballot; and
parapits.
Tape 1 Side B
Mr. Doran continued discussion on two-story buildings; parking; high ratios; retail
development; multi level parking; economics dictating site development; "shelling-out" a
second story; and maximizing the investment.
Commissioner Gennell reviewed the Town Center Code for Mr. Carrington as it relates to
the "2-story minimum, 4-story maximum" requirement; joint use of elevators; and noted
her support of construction that would provide for a multi story to be added in the future
if necessary. Discussion continued on the feasibility of this type of construction.
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Mr. Doran spoke on Publix's criteria for development; grocery stores with parking
garages; high profile density areas; what Publix may dictate; the impact of the two-story
construction on retail; intentions of new urbanism projects; building frontage on Phase III
along Hickory Grove Park; street frontage; street parking; parallel parking; angular
parking; and safety issues.
Commissioner Blake inquired whether James Doran Company was strictly a "Retail
Developer"; JDC considering other types of uses for the property; office use; parking;
JDC owning the whole parcel; and JDC selling off pieces once developed. Mr. Doran
responded about his experience in retail development and his preference of retaining the
parcel. Discussion continued on office use versus retail use; parking issues; mixed-use
development; and re-examining Main Street.
Deputy Mayor Gennell stated "I would like to see - continue working with the City
Manager in doing something to address the two-story issue and the issues that have been
raised here."
Commissioner Gennell excused herself from the Workshop at 6:50 p.m. and requested
Attorney Garganese chair the remainder of the Workshop in her absence.
Members of the Commission, Staff, and Representatives reviewed the proposed
Walgreens' elevations. Topics discussed included: architectural structures; outdoor
seating area; landscaping; pavers; the triangular piece of property; depth of covered walk-
ways; and width of sidewalks. Additional elevations were reviewed and discussed.
Discussion continued regarding the two-story issue; the importance of anchor stores;
making Main Street work economically; parking enhancements; and parking garages.
Mr. Carrington summarized and discussed the outstanding issues as being: timing for
construction of Main Street; the right-of-way issue; and the School Board issue.
Commissioner Blake stated "Ron, can you have on next Monday's Agenda an
Informational Item for us on all the pertinent issues with the stormwater system, so that
we will have all the information that we need to talk to School Board Members - to have
them move it along. Just make sure that we are all on the same page."
Manager McLemore inquired as to how extensive JDC's marketing efforts were as to
creating tenants. Mr. Doran responded he is currently negotiating with several retailers
however, an Agreement needs to be reached with the City prior to any commitments or
guarantees.
Mr. Carrington discussed circulating a "Draft of an Agreement"; advancing negotiations
with the School Board; reviewing second floor development along Main Street; and
Hickory Grove Park being difficult for second story development. Further topics
discussed included: all areas remaining conceptual in the early stages; the impact that
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Phase I would have on Phase II and III; perimeter buildings; flexibility in the plans;
Hickory Park intended to be a natural park; "a passive area, not an active area'; Central
Winds Park; Statutory provisions; and capacity.
Attorney Garganese requested a copy of the Draft Agreement be faxed to him as soon as
possible.
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III. ADJOURNMENT
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
ADJOURN." "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
The Workshop was adjourned at 7:12 p.m.
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ResJ2.ectfully Submitted By(f Tania Haas
d , ~. Deputy City Clerk