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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 03 24 Consent 202 Approval of the March 10, 2008 Regular Meeting MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MARCH 10, 2008 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, March 10, 2008 of the City Commission was called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present (via telephone) Commissioner Rick Brown, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:17 p.m. A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • • PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 500.1 Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission Hear A Presentation From Government Services Group Regarding Assessment Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Snrin~s. City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and noted, "What you're not doing tonight is setting rates, you're not approving -the first Resolution. You're simply getting an update on how the second alternative to the initial assessment model that you reviewed, how that's playing out at this point in time." .-~:~ ~~ ~' ,a"` G ~•.a ..e~ City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:17 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLOR[DA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 2 OF 22 Continuing, Manager McLemore remarked, "You do have before you Adoption of the Ordinance. The Ordinance is an enabling Ordinance, it simply gives you the authority to do this if you like. Nothing in it compels you to do anything. There are cities and counties out there who have had this Ordinance on their books for years, who have never chosen to go forward and implement, but you cannot go forward and implement if you don't pass this Ordinance -that's State Law." Discussion. Ms. Camille Tharpe, Senior Vice President, Government Services Group, Inc., IS00 Mahan Drive, Suite 250, Tallahassee, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this C~ issue and mentioned that we will have the rates in two (2) weeks. A PowerPoint presentation was displayed. ~~ Discussion. `~" With further discussion, Ms. Tharpe said, "By the time and service - we have identified, the fact that they are right now taking up about twelve percent (12%) of the man hours within the City in the multi-family category. So, whether or not we have one (1) category that ends up being about eighty-two percent (82%) and is all residential, or whether we keep two (2) separate categories is still something we are working on. But, you will have that in two (2) weeks." Continuing, Ms. Tharpe stated, "Your implementation schedule as Mr. McLemore said tonight, you are going to Adopt the Ordinance which is a procedural Ordinance; does not put this in place at all. Basically, it gives you the authority and the laws and the procedures to move forward. On the 24`", you will have the initial Assessment Resolution. We'll be back before you and all of this we've gone over, we'll go over one (1) more time and we will show you rates and we will show you examples of those rates for different properties." Discussion continued. With discussion on receiving information prior to the next Meeting, Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs noted, "We need time to digest this information." Commissioner Krebs then stated, "I really would urge you to get me that information before the Meeting." Ms. Tharpe said, "I agree. We will try." Further discussion. Ms. Tharpe stated, "There will be no charge for undeveloped land." Ms. Tharp then remarked, "The demand for service is not there." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH ] 0, 2008 PAGE 3 OF 22 Discussion followed on multi-family properties. Ms. Tharpe explained, "To us, amulti-family property would be your apartments greater than -three (3) units or more and condominiums -single family would be single family dwelling units and your mobile home parks and your mobile homes would be in your single family." Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked, "So, your break off point was three (3) units then?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Yes." Mayor Bush asked, "Where would they fit on your classification?" Ms. Tharpe said, "They are on Class 7. They are still in Class 7." Mayor Bush then inquired, "New construction requires pretty extensive sprinklering systems. Is there any kind of an adjustment for that?" Ms. Tharpe stated, "Again, that's one of those outstanding issues and when we come back before you in two (2) weeks, we will have an answer to that." Discussion. Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "Did you say that we are the first ones out of the box with this, so you don't have any numbers that will come back and say `How close to existing total dollars out of pocket' on the part of the homeowner this will come to?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Not tonight. We will have it before your next Meeting and I guarantee you it will be a better - it will track better or should track better to what they've been paying under taxes, because of the fact that the value of property -usually it's tied to how much square footage of the building there is. So, at least on the residential side, it will track a whole lot better than the other one, because that was just a flat rate." Commissioner Brown stated, "I want to echo Commissioner Krebs' statement that I really do not want to receive this information on the date that we are supposed to vote on it." Discussion. Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I would have to echo what Commissioner Krebs and Commissioner Brown said and that is that I think it would be incumbent upon you to if at all possible, to provide the data to us at the next Meeting." Discussion continued. ~~~ ~'r'"a 6-~ n ~::"'"~ Tape I/Side B CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 4 OF 22 With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "And Ron (McLemore), I asked you in a Meeting prior to that in September to bring us back real information; applied information ~ - to the residents' taxes and we never; you said you would, but we never received that. ~~ And you even admitted that had you had that information, or you wish you had had that ~, information to give to us, because I honestly believe that we would have looked at this a ~~- little bit differently and maybe looked at something, a hybrid of some sort a little closer ~'~ had we had that information at that time." ~ ~ Further discussion. •~ "c'~ Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. ~'"°' Mr. Dale Kirby 122 Seville Chase Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on changes in the Reports and suggested the City Commission further review this. Mr. Edward Martinez, 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of soundness; the Millage Rate; and asked about the number of fires from last year. Mr. Andy Brown, 242 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about taxes; spending; and asked that cuts be considered. Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the Consultants' Fees; the newly proposed Fire Service Fees; and not overburdening the residents. Ms. Ginny Decker, 30 Golf Terrace Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: working for Mosswood Apartments, Ms. Decker commented on higher rents and increasing rates. Discussion. Ms. Pamela Tucker, 3303 Sutton Drive, Orlando, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Pamela Tucker is opposed and does not wish to address the City Commission. She is a Property Manager." Mr. Ellsworth Grimsley, 790 Oakland Hills Circle, Lake Mary, Florida: representing Legends of Winter Springs Apartments, Mr. Grimsley spoke about rates; the current apartment market; Fire Services needed for apartment complexes; and loss of value to this property. Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore departed the Meeting at 6:32 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 5 OF 22 Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: referenced a document he distributed and commented on costs related to a proposed Assessment; square footage data; and a draft report he did related to Hacienda Village. ~~ Mr. Gary Bonner, 1581 Warrington Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on w public safety; Fire Services being a Budget issue and not a public safety issue; and C~9 suggested reducing other costs before imposing a new Fee. Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: representing Seville On ~ The Green, Mr. Sandidge spoke about Amendment 1; and suggested that essential ~i services not be cut. ~ ---~• Mr. Harry Heist, 155 Dundee Road, Fort Myers Beach, Florida: as General Counsel to the Florida Apartment Association, Mr. Heist addressed the City Commission on appraised values; net worth; and said that apartments should not pay the same fee as single family homes. Tape 2/Side A Mr. Bill St. Armour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the Ordinance not be passed and that other options be considered. Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about money concerns; and suggested the City Commission go back to the drawing board. Mayor Bush recognized Mr. Pellerin as a former City Commissioner. Ms. Vivian Colon, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on behalf of apartment communities and Rock Management, Ms. Colon remarked about increased costs they will have to pass on to their residents. Mr. Jeff McCall: representing the Winter Springs Professional Firefighters Union, Mr. McCall commented on the Budget process and needed Capital outlays. Ms. Maria Camps, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as an employee of Rock Management, Ms. Camps commented on costs and Fire Services. Ms. Barbi Thomson, 811 Contravest Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: as the property manager for the Legends of Winter Springs, Ms. Thompson said she was opposed to this and mentioned that with increased rents, residents may have to move to cheaper areas. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 6 OF 22 PUBLIC HEARINGS „~"'~ 500.2 Office Of The City Manager ~~ Requesting The City Commission Approve Final Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01 Which Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Springs. Manager McLemore said, "This Ordinance does a couple of things - it provides you the ~ authority to you to implement an Assessment District if you so approve, so desire. It also adds I believe, into -the provisions for a hardship agreement, as well as the payment ~ plan." Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Lennon (Chip) Tatum, 1005 Altamonte Court, Oviedo, Florida: as the Director of Education and Government Affairs for the Apartment Association of Greater Orlando, Mr. Tatum commented on the proposed payment plan; a similar Ordinance; and implementation costs. Commissioner Miller's call was disconnected at 7:15 p. m. Ms. Frankie Elliott, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: as the Vice President Governmental Affairs for the Orlando Regional Realtors Association, Ms. Elliott remarked about the market; taxes and fees; and the methodology. Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on taxes. Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: mentioned that no one had asked for this Fee. Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Water Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on a data base related to the square footage of properties and that no impact study had been submitted by the Consultants. Commissioner Miller was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m. Deputy Mayor Gilmore was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 7 OF 22 Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that no caps were suggested on this Fire Service Fee; and spoke of Capital Improvements not completed yet. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Discussion. Commissioner Krebs mentioned her concern with incomplete information. With further comments, Commissioner Brown also requested completed information before making a decision. Manager McLemore noted, "You certainly have that option of not addressing the Ordinance until the next Meeting when you have that additional information given to you. With discussion, Commissioner Miller asked, "If we delay the approval of this Ordinance for two (2) weeks, until the 24`h - of March, at that point, the information would be available on the individual rates that we would be hearing about tonight but we don't have the precise data; is that going to cause any problems in the implementation of this?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "No." Commissioner Miller then noted, "If the - GSG (Government Services Group, Inc.) data is not really written right and it takes us another two (2) or three (3) months to get where we need to be, I think we are going to be in very serious financial problems and I think that is something that you may want to look into and have an answer for this, two (2) weeks from tonight." Continuing, Commissioner Miller said, "I think it would be appropriate to make a Motion, one of us, to Postpone to the following Meeting -for two (2) weeks and preserve all the advertising." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN CLARIFIED, "MOTION TO POSTPONE." ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "POINT OF CLARIFICATION - POSTPONE TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING?" THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS NOTED. ~~ ~--~ e c~'°~" --. em° CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES ASKED, "AND THAT IS PRESERVING ADVERTISING?" NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLOR[DA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 8 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7: 30 p. m. The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7: SO p. m. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • • PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 503. Community Development Department -Planning Division Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2"d Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-02, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1379 SR (State Road) 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State Road] 434 And SR [State Road] 417), Equaling Approximately 6.25 Acres And Owned By David And Betty Long. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department briefly spoke on this Agenda Item. ~~~ ~' C,! ~~ ~'3~ °~~' ,o... "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 9 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 2/Side B INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 100. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 101. Community Development Department -Customer Service Division Updating The City Commission On The Expired Building Permit Status. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. INFORMATIONAL 102. Parks And Recreation Department Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At The Winter Springs Civic Center. Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department answered questions related to this Agenda Item. Discussion ensued on addressing budget expenditures at another time. Mayor Bush inquired of Mr. Pula, "Does the rental that we receive cover the costs of staff and -electricity, heat, air conditioning?" Mr. Pula stated, "No it does not." Mayor Bush added, "Then we need to raise the rent." Commissioner Brown suggested, "It needs to be self-funded." _~ ~.``' ~~ !_~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH l0, 2008 PAGE l0 OF 22 INFORMATIONAL 103. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding Its Involvement With Winter Springs Elementary School And The Field Of Dreams. This Agenda Item was not discussed. "MOTION TO APPROVE [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEM WAS INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • • INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 102. Parks And Recreation Department Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At The Winter Springs Civic Center. "THE MOTION IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE COST COVERAGE RATE WOULD BE FOR THE RENTAL OF THE COMMUNITY CIVIC CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. ~~~ ~~, ~-~•-v CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 11 OF 22 • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ~ WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER r DOCUMENTED. • • CONSENT AGENDA ~~ CONSENT 200. Office Of The City Manager ~---~ Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2009 Budget ~ { Calendar. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 201. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau Requesting City Commission Review And Approval Of Amended Code Enforcement Board Policv And Procedures. Discussion. Manager McLemore noted, "This is being filed with you just purely as Information." Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record that this should have been an Informational Agenda Item. CONSENT 202. Office Of The Mayor Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-16 Expressing Appreciation To Jim Wentz For His Service On The Code Enforcement Board. No discussion. CONSENT 203. Utility/Public Works Department -Capital Projects Division Requesting Approval For The Extension Of The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program (HMGP) Agreement For The Senior Center And Civic Center. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 12 OF 22 • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING THREE (3) CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .;..;. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 204. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment, Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc., Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services. CONSENT 205. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009; And July 4, 2010. CONSENT 206. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion. Brief discussion. "I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS -TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION RELATED TO BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM THE FIRE FEE. IT IS A MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. ~-~ ~•-a ~~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 13 OF 22 Discussion ensued with Attorney Garganese on removing these Agenda Items from the Consent Agenda. Mayor Bush stated, "So the Motion should be to remove this from Consent Agenda?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE MOTION DID NOT CARRY. "I MOVE WE REMOVE ITEM `204' FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HEAR IT SEPARATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "[`20]4', [`20]5', AND [`20]6'." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Commissioner Krebs stated, "That was [`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis added, "That was `205' also..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "... [`20]4', [`20]5' -and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush clarified, "[`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6"' have been removed from the Consent Agenda." • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • • CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 207. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 1 To The Project Agreement With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (MRCS), And ARight-Of--Entry Agreement With The Hacienda Village Co-Op For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Proiect. No discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 14 OF 22 CONSENT 208. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With CAPTEC Engineering, Inc. To Provide Professional Engineering Services For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project At Hacienda Village. ~ ~``` There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. ~ CONSENT 209. Utility Department ~°'~ Requesting The City Commission Extend The First Addendum To The Effluent "~ Disposal Easement Agreement With Tuscawilla Country Club. e This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 210. Utility Department Requesting Approval For The Purchase Of One (1) Ford F-350 Truck With A Utility Body. Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works Department. CONSENT 211. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Ford F250 4X4 Pick Up Truck With Utility Body By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Number 06- 14-0821. Brief discussion. CONSENT 212. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Enter In A Contractual Agreement For The Installation Of Roadway Underdrains On Winter Springs Boulevard. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 15 OF 22 CONSENT 213. Information Services Department Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached Disposition Sheets. ~ No discussion. CONSENT 214. Office Of TIIe City C1eI•k Requesting Approval Of The February 25, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. ;V`~~{~ ~K~~:: This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 215. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The March 3, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. "MOTION TO APPROVE [CONSENT AGENDA, NOT INCLUDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS `204', `205', AND `206']." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID "THEY [`204', `205', AND `206'] ARE ALREADY REMOVED." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 16 OF 22 • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, PREVIOUSLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .;..;. CONSENT AGENDA FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 204. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment, Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc., Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services. FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 205. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009; And July 4, 2010. FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 206. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion. "WHY CAN'T WE JUST TAKE AN ACTION TO TABLE THEM UNTIL AFTER WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT AND WE FIGURE OUT THE FIRE FEE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "SO BRING IT BACK AFTER THAT -TABLE IT." FURTHERMORE, COMMISSIONER KREBS REMARKED, "I WAS MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS FIRE FEE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA M[NUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 1Q 2008 PAGE l7 OF 22 AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 300. Not Used. REPORTS REPORTS 400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese noted an Appeal to the Sign Code Case related to advertising. REPORTS 401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore No Report. REPORTS 402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC No Report. REPORTS 403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller No Report as Commissioner Miller was no longer telephonically in attendance at this Regular Meeting. REPORTS 404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown Commissioner Brown commented on Economic Development comments made by Sabrina O'Bryan with Seminole County. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "SHE GAVE AVERY -POINTED AND DIRECT AND CONCISE PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR DEVELOPING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM AND HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT IN YOUR CITIES. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE l8 OF 22 AND, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE SCHEDULE HER TO DO THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR US AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE PRESENTATIONS SECTION, BECAUSE I THINK THE INFORMATION SHE HAS IS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE." COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "IT IS A MOTION." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "DURING A REGULAR MEETING - TWENTY (20) MINUTES AT THE MOST." VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REPORTS 405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore No Report as Commissioner Gilmore was no longer in attendance at this Regular Meeting. REPORTS 406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis No Report. REPORTS 407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs No Report. REPORTS 408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush ~„' G."'~ ^' Mayor Bush mentioned a letter from Chairman Brenda Carey of Seminole County related to Enclaves. Mayor Bush then noted, "If the Commission has no objection, I would like to go to the County Commission and ask them to explain it a little more thoroughly." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH IQ, 2008 PAGE l9 OF 22 "SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush then noted, "What I will need -from Randy [Stevenson] or Eloise [Sahlstrom] is -the Joint Planning Agreement that we have with the County, the attachment is very hard to read - it shows the areas of the Enclaves that were potential Annexations - I would like to have one that was better." Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Are you asking that we do a new attachment that represents the one that was attached in [19]87?" Mayor Bush remarked, "Yes." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "To transfer it to a new map so it's more readable?" Mayor Bush stated, "Right." Deputy Mayor McGinnis then said to Deputy Mayor McGinnis, "Will you let us know Mayor?" Attorney Garganese asked Mayor Bush, "Do you want to show them the map in 1987 or do you want to show them the current..." Mayor Bush added, "... We would show them both I guess, if it is possible." Following up, Mayor Bush asked, "Is there some way that we could show [19]'87 and then color code it such to say this has been annexed, this still hasn't been, and that is what we asked for. Is that possible?" Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Sure." Mayor Bush added, "Let me know when you are ready, and then I will schedule to go to the County." Ms. Sahlstrom commented, "Okay." PUBLIC INPUT No one requested to address the City Commission at this time. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 501. Not Used. ~' ~~ PUBLIC HEARINGS 502. Not Used. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 20 OF 22 REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 600. Not Used. ~ ~~ ~" REGULAR 601. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau Requests The Commission To Provide Guidance In Regards To The Abatement Of ~~ Public Nuisance Such As The Mowing Of Properties That Remain In Violation Of City Code. ~. Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department. Much discussion. Manager McLemore commented on a Hearing Officer, to which Deputy Mayor McGinnis said that was also of interest to her. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD RE-EVALUATE IT, SHOULD IT BECOME A PROBLEM -THEN IN THE MEANTIME -LET'S BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION ON THE HEARING OFFICER THAT THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 3/Side A REGULAR 602. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission Information And Requesting City Commission Input Regarding The Proposed Pedestrian Bridge Over Howell Creek At Northern Wav. Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department spoke on this Agenda Item and reviewed options with the City Commission. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 21 OF 22 "MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE ~' COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYES MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 603. Office Of The Mayor ~,' Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution ~~ :~- 2008-17 Related To Supporting The Florida League Of Cities, Inc. And The Florida Green Building Coalition's Green Local Government Program. "MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-17]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 604. Office Of Mayor Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution 2008-18 Related To Supporting The Continued Funding Of The Florida Forever Program Or A Possible Successor Program Which Would Support Florida Communities Trust. Mayor Bush introduced this Agenda Item for discussion. "MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-18]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 22 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned that the white railing near Trotwood Park looked bad. Mr. Lockcuff noted that the railing was painted late last week. Regarding a date for a site visit to Bart Phillips' property, Mayor Bush stated, "Let's do it Friday afternoon..." Commissioner McGinnis added, "...Friday afternoon is good..." Mayor Bush then stated, "...Two o'clock." No objections were noted. Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Would you let Commissioners Miller and Gilmore know Friday, two o'clock -the 14t" [of March]. Shall we meet here?" No objections were noted. Manager McLemore mentioned a Bill before the Legislature to make it unlawful for the City to belong to the Florida -Municipal League. You could belong if you want to, you just couldn't pay a membership to it." Manager McLemore added, "I will send that to you tomorrow." Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he was sending a letter to Representative Hukill related to a House Bill dealing with Public Input at Commission Meetings. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:46 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY CLERK APPROVED: MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH ~.w.~i~~ v 0 NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MARCH 10, 2008 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, March 10, 2008 of the City Commission was called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present (via telephone) Commissioner Rick Brown, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:17 p.m. A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • • PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 500.1 Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission Hear A Presentation From Government Services Group Regarding Assessment Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Springs. City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and noted, "What you're not doing tonight is setting rates, you're not approving -the first Resolution. You're simply getting an update on how the second alternative to the initial assessment model that you reviewed, how that's playing out at this point in time." City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:17 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 2 OF 22 Continuing, Manager McLemore remarked, "You do have before you Adoption of the Ordinance. The Ordinance is an enabling Ordinance, it simply gives you the authority to do this if you like. Nothing in it compels you to do anything. There are cities and counties out there who have had this Ordinance on their books for years, who have never chosen to go forward and implement, but you cannot go forward and implement if you don't pass this Ordinance -that's State Law." Discussion. Ms. Camille Tharpe, Senior Vice President, Government Services Group, Inc., 1 S00 Mahan Drive, Suite 250, Tallahassee, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this issue and mentioned that we will have the rates in two (2) weeks. A PowerPoint presentation was displayed. Discussion. With further discussion, Ms. Tharpe said, "By the time and service - we have identified, the fact that they are right now taking up about twelve percent (12%) of the man hours within the City in the multi-family category. So, whether or not we have one (1) category that ends up being about eighty-two percent (82%) and is all residential, or whether we keep two (2) separate categories is still something we are working on. But, you will have that in two (2) weeks." Continuing, Ms. Tharpe stated, "Your implementation schedule as Mr. McLemore said tonight, you are going to Adopt the Ordinance which is a procedural Ordinance; does not put this in place at all. Basically, it gives you the authority and the laws and the procedures to move forward. On the 24`h, you will have the initial Assessment Resolution. We'll be back before you and all of this we've gone over, we'll go over one (1) more time and we will show you rates and we will show you examples of those rates for different properties." Discussion continued. With discussion on receiving information prior to the next Meeting, Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs noted, "We need time to digest this information." Commissioner Krebs then stated, "I really would urge you to get me that information before the Meeting." Ms. Tharpe said, "I agree. We will try." Further discussion. Ms. Tharpe stated, "There will be no charge for undeveloped land." Ms. Tharp then remarked, "The demand for service is not there." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 3 OF 22 Discussion followed on multi-family properties. Ms. Tharpe explained, "To us, amulti-family property would be your apartments greater than -three (3) units or more and condominiums -single family would be single family dwelling units and your mobile home parks and your mobile homes would be in your single family." Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked, "So, your break off point was three (3) units then?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Yes." Mayor Bush asked, "Where would they fit on your classification?" Ms. Tharpe said, "They are on Class 7. They are still in Class 7." Mayor Bush then inquired, "New construction requires pretty extensive sprinklering systems. Is there any kind of an adjustment for that?" Ms. Tharpe stated, "Again, that's one of those outstanding issues and when we come back before you in two (2) weeks, we will have an answer to that." Discussion. Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "Did you say that we are the first ones out of the box with this, so you don't have any numbers that will come back and say `How close to existing total dollars out of pocket' on the part of the homeowner this will come to?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Not tonight. We will have it before your next Meeting and I guarantee you it will be a better - it will track better or should track better to what they've been paying under taxes, because of the fact that the value of property -usually it's tied to how much square footage of the building there is. So, at least on the residential side, it will track a whole lot better than the other one, because that was just a flat rate." Commissioner Brown stated, "I want to echo Commissioner Krebs' statement that I really do not want to receive this information on the date that we are supposed to vote on it." Discussion. Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I would have to echo what Commissioner Krebs and Commissioner Brown said and that is that I think it would be incumbent upon you to if at all possible, to provide the data to us at the next Meeting." Discussion continued. Tape I/Side B CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA M[NUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH I0, 2008 PAGE 4 OF 22 With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "And Ron (McLemore), I asked you in a Meeting prior to that in September to bring us back real information; applied information - to the residents' taxes and we never; you said you would, but we never received that. And you even admitted that had you had that information, or you wish you had had that information to give to us, because I honestly believe that we would have looked at this a little bit differently and maybe looked at something, a hybrid of some sort a little closer had we had that information at that time." Further discussion. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Dale Kirby 122 Seville Chase Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on changes in the Reports and suggested the City Commission further review this. Mr. Edward Martinez, 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of soundness; the Millage Rate; and asked about the number of fires from last year. Mr. Andy Brown, 242 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about taxes; spending; and asked that cuts be considered. Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the Consultants' Fees; the newly proposed Fire Service Fees; and not overburdening the residents. Ms. Ginny Decker, 30 Golf Terrace Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: working for Mosswood Apartments, Ms. Decker commented on higher rents and increasing rates. Discussion. Ms. Pamela Tucker, 3303 Sutton Drive, Orlando, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Pamela Tucker is opposed and does not wish to address the City Commission. She is a Property Manager." Mr. Ellsworth Grimsley, 790 Oakland Hills Circle, Lake Mary, Florida: representing Legends of Winter Springs Apartments, Mr. Grimsley spoke about rates; the current apartment market; Fire Services needed for apartment complexes; and loss of value to this property. Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore departed the Meeting at 6:32 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 5 OF 22 Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: referenced a document he distributed and commented on costs related to a proposed Assessment; square footage data; and a draft report he did related to Hacienda Village. Mr. Gary Bonner, 1581 Warrington Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on public safety; Fire Services being a Budget issue and not a public safety issue; and suggested reducing other costs before imposing a new Fee. Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: representing Seville On The Green, Mr. Sandidge spoke about Amendment 1; and suggested that essential services not be cut. Mr. Harry Heist, 155 Dundee Road, Fort Myers Beach, Florida: as General Counsel to the Florida Apartment Association, Mr. Heist addressed the City Commission on appraised values; net worth; and said that apartments should not pay the same fee as single family homes. Tape 2/Side A Mr. Bill St. Armour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the Ordinance not be passed and that other options be considered. Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about money concerns; and suggested the City Commission go back to the drawing board. Mayor Bush recognized Mr. Pellerin as a former City Commissioner. Ms. Vivian Colon, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on behalf of apartment communities and Rock Management, Ms. Colon remarked about increased costs they will have to pass on to their residents. Mr. Jeff McCall: representing the Winter Springs Professional Firefighters Union, Mr. McCall commented on the Budget process and needed Capital outlays. Ms. Maria Camps, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as an employee of Rock Management, Ms. Camps commented on costs and Fire Services. Ms. Barbi Thomson, 811 Contravest Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: as the property manager for the Legends of Winter Springs, Ms. Thompson said she was opposed to this and mentioned that with increased rents, residents may have to move to cheaper areas. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 6 OF 22 PUBLIC HEARINGS 500.2 Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission Approve Final Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01 Which Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter Springs. Manager McLemore said, "This Ordinance does a couple of things - it provides you the authority to you to implement an Assessment District if you so approve, so desire. It also adds I believe, into -the provisions for a hardship agreement, as well as the payment plan." Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Lennon (Chip) Tatum, 1005 Altamonte Court, Oviedo, Florida: as the Director of Education and Government Affairs for the Apartment Association of Greater Orlando, Mr. Tatum commented on the proposed payment plan; a similar Ordinance; and implementation costs. Commissioner Miller's call was disconnected at 7:15 p. m. Ms. Frankie Elliott, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: as the Vice President Governmental Affairs for the Orlando Regional Realtors Association, Ms. Elliott remarked about the market; taxes and fees; and the methodology. Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on taxes. Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: mentioned that no one had asked for this Fee. Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Water Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on a data base related to the square footage of properties and that no impact study had been submitted by the Consultants. Commissioner Miller was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.•17 p.m. Deputy Mayor Gilmore was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 1Q 2008 PAGE 7 OF 22 Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that no caps were suggested on this Fire Service Fee; and spoke of Capital Improvements not completed yet. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Discussion. Commissioner Krebs mentioned her concern with incomplete information. With further comments, Commissioner Brown also requested completed information before making a decision. Manager McLemore noted, "You certainly have that option of not addressing the Ordinance until the next Meeting when you have that additional information given to you. With discussion, Commissioner Miller asked, "If we delay the approval of this Ordinance for two (2) weeks, until the 24`h - of March, at that point, the information would be available on the individual rates that we would be hearing about tonight but we don't have the precise data; is that going to cause any problems in the implementation of this?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "No." Commissioner Miller then noted, "If the - GSG (Government Services Group, Inc.) data is not really written right and it takes us another two (2) or three (3) months to get where we need to be, I think we are going to be in very serious financial problems and I think that is something that you may want to look into and have an answer for this, two (2) weeks from tonight." Continuing, Commissioner Miller said, "I think it would be appropriate to make a Motion, one of us, to Postpone to the following Meeting -for two (2) weeks and preserve all the advertising." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN CLARIFIED, "MOTION TO POSTPONE." ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "POINT OF CLARIFICATION - POSTPONE TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING?" THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS NOTED. CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES ASKED, "AND THAT IS PRESERVING ADVERTISING?" NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 8 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7: 30 p. m. The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7.•50 p. m. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • • PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 503. Community Development Department -Planning Division Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2"d Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-02, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1379 SR (State Road) 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State Road] 434 And SR [State Road] 417), Equaling Approximately 6.25 Acres And Owned By David And Betty Long. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department briefly spoke on this Agenda Item. "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 9 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 2/Side B INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 100. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 101. Community Development Department -Customer Service Division Updating The City Commission On The Expired Building Permit Status. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. INFORMATIONAL 102. Parks And Recreation Department Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At The Winter Springs Civic Center. Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department answered questions related to this Agenda Item. Discussion ensued on addressing budget expenditures at another time. Mayor Bush inquired of Mr. Pula, "Does the rental that we receive cover the costs of staff and -electricity, heat, air conditioning?" Mr. Pula stated, "No it does not." Mayor Bush added, "Then we need to raise the rent." Commissioner Brown suggested, "It needs to be self-funded." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 10 OF 22 INFORMATIONAL 103. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding Its Involvement With Winter Springs Elementary School And The Field Of Dreams. This Agenda Item was not discussed. "MOTION TO APPROVE [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEM WAS INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • • INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 102. Parks And Recreation Department Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At The Winter Springs Civic Center. "THE MOTION IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE COST COVERAGE RATE WOULD BE FOR THE RENTAL OF THE COMMUNITY CIVIC CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 11 OF 22 • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • • CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 200. Office Of The City Manager Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2009 Budget Calendar. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 201. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau Requesting City Commission Review And Approval Of Amended Code Enforcement Board Policv And Procedures. Discussion. Manager McLemore noted, "This is being filed with you just purely as Information." Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record that this should have been an Informational Agenda Item. CONSENT 202. Office Of The Mayor Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-16 Expressing Appreciation To Jim Wentz For His Service On The Code Enforcement Board. No discussion. CONSENT 203. Utility/Public Works Department -Capital Projects Division Requesting Approval For The Extension Of The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program (HMGP) Agreement For The Senior Center And Civic Center. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 12 OF 22 •• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING THREE (3) CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .;..;. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 204. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment, Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc., Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services. CONSENT 205. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009; And July 4, 2010. CONSENT 206. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion. Brief discussion. "I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS -TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION RELATED TO BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM THE FIRE FEE. IT IS A MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 13 OF 22 Discussion ensued with Attorney Garganese on removing these Agenda Items from the Consent Agenda. Mayor Bush stated, "So the Motion should be to remove this from Consent Agenda?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION DID NOT CARRY. "I MOVE WE REMOVE ITEM `204' FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HEAR IT SEPARATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "[`20]4', [`20]5', AND [`20]6'." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Commissioner Krebs stated, "That was [`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis added, "That was `205' also..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "... [`20]4', [`20]5' -and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush clarified, "[`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6"' have been removed from the Consent Agenda." • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • • CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 207. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 1 To The Project Agreement With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (MRCS), And ARight-Of--Entry Agreement With The Hacienda Village Co-Op For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project. No discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH l0, 2008 PAGE 14 OF 22 CONSENT 208. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With CAPTEC Engineering, Inc. To Provide Professional Engineering Services For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project At Hacienda Village. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 209. Utility Department Requesting The City Commission Extend The First Addendum To The Effluent Disposal Easement Agreement With Tuscawilla Country Club. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 210. Utility Department Requesting Approval For The Purchase Of One (1) Ford F-350 Truck With A Utility Body. Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works Department. CONSENT 211. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Ford F250 4X4 Pick Up Truck With Utility Body By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Number 06- 14-0821. Brief discussion. CONSENT 212. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Enter In A Contractual Agreement For The Installation Of Roadway Underdrains On Winter Springs Boulevard. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE I S OF 22 CONSENT 213. Information Services Department Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached Disposition Sheets. No discussion. CONSENT 214. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The February 25, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 215. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The March 3, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. "MOTION TO APPROVE [CONSENT AGENDA, NOT INCLUDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS `204', `205', AND `206']." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID "THEY [`204', `205', AND `206'] ARE ALREADY REMOVED." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 16 OF 22 • • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, PREVIOUSLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .;..;. CONSENT AGENDA FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 204. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment, Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc., Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services. FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 205. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009; And July 4, 2010. FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA 206. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion. "WHY CAN'T WE JUST TAKE AN ACTION TO TABLE THEM UNTIL AFTER WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT AND WE FIGURE OUT THE FIRE FEE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "SO BRING IT BACK AFTER THAT -TABLE IT." FURTHERMORE, COMMISSIONER KREBS REMARKED, "I WAS MAKING A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS FIRE FEE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 17 OF 22 AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 300. Not Used. REPORTS REPORTS 400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese noted an Appeal to the Sign Code Case related to advertising. REPORTS 401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore No Report. REPORTS 402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC No Report. REPORTS 403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller No Report as Commissioner Miller was no longer telephonically in attendance at this Regular Meeting. REPORTS 404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown Commissioner Brown commented on Economic Development comments made by Sabrina O'Bryan with Seminole County. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "SHE GAVE AVERY -POINTED AND DIRECT AND CONCISE PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR DEVELOPING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM AND HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT IN YOUR CITIES. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 18 OF 22 AND, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE SCHEDULE HER TO DO THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR US AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE PRESENTATIONS SECTION, BECAUSE I THINK THE INFORMATION SHE HAS IS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE." COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "IT IS A MOTION." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "DURING A REGULAR MEETING - TWENTY (20) MINUTES AT THE MOST." VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REPORTS 405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore No Report as Commissioner Gilmore was no longer in attendance at this Regular Meeting. REPORTS 406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis No Report. REPORTS 407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs No Report. REPORTS 408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush Mayor Bush mentioned a letter from Chairman Brenda Carey of Seminole County related to Enclaves. Mayor Bush then noted, "If the Commission has no objection, I would like to go to the County Commission and ask them to explain it a little more thoroughly." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 19 OF 22 "SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush then noted, "What I will need -from Randy [Stevenson] or Eloise [Sahlstrom] is -the Joint Planning Agreement that we have with the County, the attachment is very hard to read - it shows the areas of the Enclaves that were potential Annexations - I would like to have one that was better." Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Are you asking that we do a new attachment that represents the one that was attached in [ 19] 87?" Mayor Bush remarked, "Yes." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "To transfer it to a new map so it's more readable?" Mayor Bush stated, "Right." Deputy Mayor McGinnis then said to Deputy Mayor McGinnis, "Will you let us know Mayor?" Attorney Garganese asked Mayor Bush, "Do you want to show them the map in 1987 or do you want to show them the current..." Mayor Bush added, "... We would show them both I guess, if it is possible." Following up, Mayor Bush asked, "Is there some way that we could show [ 19]' 87 and then color code it such to say this has been annexed, this still hasn't been, and that is what we asked for. Is that possible?" Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Sure." Mayor Bush added, "Let me know when you are ready, and then I will schedule to go to the County." Ms. Sahlstrom commented, "Okay." PUBLIC INPUT No one requested to address the City Commission at this time. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 501. Not Used. PUBLIC HEARINGS 502. Not Used. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 20 OF 22 REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 600. Not Used. REGULAR 601. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau Requests The Commission To Provide Guidance In Regards To The Abatement Of Public Nuisance Such As The Mowing Of Properties That Remain In Violation Of City Code. Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department. Much discussion. Manager McLemore commented on a Hearing Officer, to which Deputy Mayor McGinnis said that was also of interest to her. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD RE-EVALUATE IT, SHOULD IT BECOME A PROBLEM -THEN IN THE MEANTIME -LET'S BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION ON THE HEARING OFFICER THAT THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 3/Side A REGULAR 602. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission Information And Requesting City Commission Input Regarding The Proposed Pedestrian Bridge Over Howell Creek At Northern Wav. Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department spoke on this Agenda Item and reviewed options with the City Commission. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 21 OF 22 "MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNI5: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 603. Office Of The Mayor Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution 2008-17 Related To Supporting The Florida League Of Cities, Inc. And The Florida Green Building Coalition's Green Local Government Program. "MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-17]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 604. Office Of Mayor Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution 2008-18 Related To Supporting The Continued Funding Of The Florida Forever Program Or A Possible Successor Program Which Would Support Florida Communities Trust. Mayor Bush introduced this Agenda Item for discussion. "MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-18]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION. C[TY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -MARCH 10, 2008 PAGE 22 OF 22 VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned that the white railing near Trotwood Park looked bad. Mr. Lockcuff noted that the railing was painted late last week. Regarding a date for a site visit to Bart Phillips' property, Mayor Bush stated, "Let's do it Friday afternoon..." Commissioner McGinnis added, "...Friday afternoon is good..." Mayor Bush then stated, "...Two o'clock." No objections were noted. Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Would you let Commissioners Miller and Gilmore know Friday, two o'clock -the 14th [of March]. Shall we meet here?" No objections were noted. Manager McLemore mentioned a Bill before the Legislature to make it unlawful for the City to belong to the Florida -Municipal League. You could belong if you want to, you just couldn't pay a membership to it." Manager McLemore added, "I will send that to you tomorrow." Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he was sending a letter to Representative Hukill related to a House Bill dealing with Public Input at Commission Meetings. ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:46 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: AND A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY CLERK A O vED: M' OR 3(~HN<l~. $USH NOTE: These Minr~its were approved at the March 24, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.