HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 03 24 Consent 202 Approval of the March 10, 2008 Regular Meeting MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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MARCH 10, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, March 10, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present (via telephone)
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:17 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1 Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Hear A Presentation From Government Services
Group Regarding Assessment Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City
Of Winter Snrin~s.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and noted, "What
you're not doing tonight is setting rates, you're not approving -the first Resolution.
You're simply getting an update on how the second alternative to the initial assessment
model that you reviewed, how that's playing out at this point in time."
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City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:17 p. m.
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Continuing, Manager McLemore remarked, "You do have before you Adoption of the
Ordinance. The Ordinance is an enabling Ordinance, it simply gives you the authority to
do this if you like. Nothing in it compels you to do anything. There are cities and
counties out there who have had this Ordinance on their books for years, who have never
chosen to go forward and implement, but you cannot go forward and implement if you
don't pass this Ordinance -that's State Law." Discussion.
Ms. Camille Tharpe, Senior Vice President, Government Services Group, Inc., IS00
Mahan Drive, Suite 250, Tallahassee, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this C~
issue and mentioned that we will have the rates in two (2) weeks.
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With further discussion, Ms. Tharpe said, "By the time and service - we have identified,
the fact that they are right now taking up about twelve percent (12%) of the man hours
within the City in the multi-family category. So, whether or not we have one (1) category
that ends up being about eighty-two percent (82%) and is all residential, or whether we
keep two (2) separate categories is still something we are working on. But, you will have
that in two (2) weeks."
Continuing, Ms. Tharpe stated, "Your implementation schedule as Mr. McLemore said
tonight, you are going to Adopt the Ordinance which is a procedural Ordinance; does not
put this in place at all. Basically, it gives you the authority and the laws and the
procedures to move forward. On the 24`", you will have the initial Assessment
Resolution. We'll be back before you and all of this we've gone over, we'll go over one
(1) more time and we will show you rates and we will show you examples of those rates
for different properties."
Discussion continued.
With discussion on receiving information prior to the next Meeting, Commissioner
Joanne M. Krebs noted, "We need time to digest this information." Commissioner Krebs
then stated, "I really would urge you to get me that information before the Meeting." Ms.
Tharpe said, "I agree. We will try."
Further discussion.
Ms. Tharpe stated, "There will be no charge for undeveloped land." Ms. Tharp then
remarked, "The demand for service is not there."
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Discussion followed on multi-family properties.
Ms. Tharpe explained, "To us, amulti-family property would be your apartments greater
than -three (3) units or more and condominiums -single family would be single family
dwelling units and your mobile home parks and your mobile homes would be in your
single family." Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked, "So, your break off point was three
(3) units then?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Yes."
Mayor Bush asked, "Where would they fit on your classification?" Ms. Tharpe said,
"They are on Class 7. They are still in Class 7."
Mayor Bush then inquired, "New construction requires pretty extensive sprinklering
systems. Is there any kind of an adjustment for that?" Ms. Tharpe stated, "Again, that's
one of those outstanding issues and when we come back before you in two (2) weeks, we
will have an answer to that."
Discussion.
Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "Did you say that we are the first ones out of the box
with this, so you don't have any numbers that will come back and say `How close to
existing total dollars out of pocket' on the part of the homeowner this will come to?"
Ms. Tharpe said, "Not tonight. We will have it before your next Meeting and I guarantee
you it will be a better - it will track better or should track better to what they've been
paying under taxes, because of the fact that the value of property -usually it's tied to how
much square footage of the building there is. So, at least on the residential side, it will
track a whole lot better than the other one, because that was just a flat rate."
Commissioner Brown stated, "I want to echo Commissioner Krebs' statement that I
really do not want to receive this information on the date that we are supposed to vote on
it."
Discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I would have to echo what Commissioner Krebs
and Commissioner Brown said and that is that I think it would be incumbent upon you to
if at all possible, to provide the data to us at the next Meeting."
Discussion continued.
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With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "And Ron (McLemore), I asked you in a
Meeting prior to that in September to bring us back real information; applied information ~
- to the residents' taxes and we never; you said you would, but we never received that. ~~
And you even admitted that had you had that information, or you wish you had had that ~,
information to give to us, because I honestly believe that we would have looked at this a ~~-
little bit differently and maybe looked at something, a hybrid of some sort a little closer ~'~
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. ~'"°'
Mr. Dale Kirby 122 Seville Chase Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
changes in the Reports and suggested the City Commission further review this.
Mr. Edward Martinez, 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of
soundness; the Millage Rate; and asked about the number of fires from last year.
Mr. Andy Brown, 242 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about taxes;
spending; and asked that cuts be considered.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Consultants' Fees; the newly proposed Fire Service Fees; and not overburdening the
residents.
Ms. Ginny Decker, 30 Golf Terrace Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: working for
Mosswood Apartments, Ms. Decker commented on higher rents and increasing rates.
Discussion.
Ms. Pamela Tucker, 3303 Sutton Drive, Orlando, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Pamela
Tucker is opposed and does not wish to address the City Commission. She is a Property
Manager."
Mr. Ellsworth Grimsley, 790 Oakland Hills Circle, Lake Mary, Florida: representing
Legends of Winter Springs Apartments, Mr. Grimsley spoke about rates; the current
apartment market; Fire Services needed for apartment complexes; and loss of value to
this property.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore departed the Meeting at 6:32 p. m.
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Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: referenced a
document he distributed and commented on costs related to a proposed Assessment;
square footage data; and a draft report he did related to Hacienda Village.
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Mr. Gary Bonner, 1581 Warrington Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on w
public safety; Fire Services being a Budget issue and not a public safety issue; and C~9
suggested reducing other costs before imposing a new Fee.
Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: representing Seville On ~
The Green, Mr. Sandidge spoke about Amendment 1; and suggested that essential ~i
services not be cut. ~
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Mr. Harry Heist, 155 Dundee Road, Fort Myers Beach, Florida: as General Counsel to
the Florida Apartment Association, Mr. Heist addressed the City Commission on
appraised values; net worth; and said that apartments should not pay the same fee as
single family homes.
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Mr. Bill St. Armour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the Ordinance
not be passed and that other options be considered.
Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about
money concerns; and suggested the City Commission go back to the drawing board.
Mayor Bush recognized Mr. Pellerin as a former City Commissioner.
Ms. Vivian Colon, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on
behalf of apartment communities and Rock Management, Ms. Colon remarked about
increased costs they will have to pass on to their residents.
Mr. Jeff McCall: representing the Winter Springs Professional Firefighters Union, Mr.
McCall commented on the Budget process and needed Capital outlays.
Ms. Maria Camps, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as an
employee of Rock Management, Ms. Camps commented on costs and Fire Services.
Ms. Barbi Thomson, 811 Contravest Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: as the property
manager for the Legends of Winter Springs, Ms. Thompson said she was opposed to this
and mentioned that with increased rents, residents may have to move to cheaper areas.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS „~"'~
500.2 Office Of The City Manager ~~
Requesting The City Commission Approve Final Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01
Which Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The
City Of Winter Springs.
Manager McLemore said, "This Ordinance does a couple of things - it provides you the ~
authority to you to implement an Assessment District if you so approve, so desire. It also
adds I believe, into -the provisions for a hardship agreement, as well as the payment ~
plan."
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Lennon (Chip) Tatum, 1005 Altamonte Court, Oviedo, Florida: as the Director of
Education and Government Affairs for the Apartment Association of Greater Orlando,
Mr. Tatum commented on the proposed payment plan; a similar Ordinance; and
implementation costs.
Commissioner Miller's call was disconnected at 7:15 p. m.
Ms. Frankie Elliott, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: as the Vice President
Governmental Affairs for the Orlando Regional Realtors Association, Ms. Elliott
remarked about the market; taxes and fees; and the methodology.
Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
taxes.
Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: mentioned that no one
had asked for this Fee.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Water Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on a
data base related to the square footage of properties and that no impact study had been
submitted by the Consultants.
Commissioner Miller was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m.
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Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that no
caps were suggested on this Fire Service Fee; and spoke of Capital Improvements not
completed yet.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs mentioned her concern with incomplete information. With further
comments, Commissioner Brown also requested completed information before making a
decision. Manager McLemore noted, "You certainly have that option of not addressing
the Ordinance until the next Meeting when you have that additional information given to
you.
With discussion, Commissioner Miller asked, "If we delay the approval of this Ordinance
for two (2) weeks, until the 24`h - of March, at that point, the information would be
available on the individual rates that we would be hearing about tonight but we don't
have the precise data; is that going to cause any problems in the implementation of this?"
Manager McLemore responded by saying, "No."
Commissioner Miller then noted, "If the - GSG (Government Services Group, Inc.) data
is not really written right and it takes us another two (2) or three (3) months to get where
we need to be, I think we are going to be in very serious financial problems and I think
that is something that you may want to look into and have an answer for this, two (2)
weeks from tonight."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller said, "I think it would be appropriate to make a
Motion, one of us, to Postpone to the following Meeting -for two (2) weeks and preserve
all the advertising."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN CLARIFIED, "MOTION TO POSTPONE."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "POINT OF CLARIFICATION -
POSTPONE TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING?" THERE WERE
NO OBJECTIONS NOTED.
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CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES ASKED, "AND THAT IS
PRESERVING ADVERTISING?" NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7: 30 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7: SO p. m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE
REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2"d Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-02, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1379 SR (State
Road) 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State Road] 434 And SR [State Road]
417), Equaling Approximately 6.25 Acres And Owned By David And Betty Long.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department briefly spoke on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department -Customer Service Division
Updating The City Commission On The Expired Building Permit Status.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At
The Winter Springs Civic Center.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department answered questions related
to this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on addressing budget expenditures at another time.
Mayor Bush inquired of Mr. Pula, "Does the rental that we receive cover the costs of staff
and -electricity, heat, air conditioning?" Mr. Pula stated, "No it does not." Mayor Bush
added, "Then we need to raise the rent." Commissioner Brown suggested, "It needs to be
self-funded."
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INFORMATIONAL
103. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding Its Involvement With Winter
Springs Elementary School And The Field Of Dreams.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEM WAS INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST
OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At
The Winter Springs Civic Center.
"THE MOTION IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK
INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE COST COVERAGE RATE WOULD
BE FOR THE RENTAL OF THE COMMUNITY CIVIC CENTER." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ~
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER r
DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
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CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Manager ~---~
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2009 Budget ~ {
Calendar.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
201. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requesting City Commission Review And Approval Of Amended Code
Enforcement Board Policv And Procedures.
Discussion.
Manager McLemore noted, "This is being filed with you just purely as Information."
Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record that this should have been an Informational
Agenda Item.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-16 Expressing Appreciation To
Jim Wentz For His Service On The Code Enforcement Board.
No discussion.
CONSENT
203. Utility/Public Works Department -Capital Projects Division
Requesting Approval For The Extension Of The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program
(HMGP) Agreement For The Senior Center And Civic Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING THREE (3) CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY
FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up
To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc.,
Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And
Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
CONSENT
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier
Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With
The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009;
And July 4, 2010.
CONSENT
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando
Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
Brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS -TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION RELATED TO BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM THE FIRE FEE.
IT IS A MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
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Discussion ensued with Attorney Garganese on removing these Agenda Items from the
Consent Agenda.
Mayor Bush stated, "So the Motion should be to remove this from Consent Agenda?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I MOVE WE REMOVE ITEM `204' FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND
HEAR IT SEPARATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER
BROWN ADDED, "[`20]4', [`20]5', AND [`20]6'."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER IKREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Krebs stated, "That was [`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6'." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "That was `205' also..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "... [`20]4',
[`20]5' -and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush clarified,
"[`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6"' have been removed from the Consent Agenda."
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
207. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 1 To The Project Agreement
With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (MRCS), And ARight-Of--Entry
Agreement With The Hacienda Village Co-Op For The Gee Creek Bank
Stabilization Proiect.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
208. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With CAPTEC
Engineering, Inc. To Provide Professional Engineering Services For The Gee Creek
Bank Stabilization Project At Hacienda Village. ~
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There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. ~
CONSENT
209. Utility Department ~°'~
Requesting The City Commission Extend The First Addendum To The Effluent "~
Disposal Easement Agreement With Tuscawilla Country Club. e
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
210. Utility Department
Requesting Approval For The Purchase Of One (1) Ford F-350 Truck With A
Utility Body.
Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works Department.
CONSENT
211. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Ford F250 4X4 Pick Up Truck With
Utility Body By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Number 06-
14-0821.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
212. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter In A Contractual Agreement For The
Installation Of Roadway Underdrains On Winter Springs Boulevard.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
213. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets. ~
No discussion.
CONSENT
214. Office Of TIIe City C1eI•k
Requesting Approval Of The February 25, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes. ;V`~~{~
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This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
215. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 3, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [CONSENT AGENDA, NOT INCLUDING CONSENT
AGENDA ITEMS `204', `205', AND `206']." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID "THEY [`204', `205', AND `206']
ARE ALREADY REMOVED." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, PREVIOUSLY
LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY
NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED.
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CONSENT AGENDA
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up
To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc.,
Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And
Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier
Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With
The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009;
And July 4, 2010.
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando
Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
"WHY CAN'T WE JUST TAKE AN ACTION TO TABLE THEM UNTIL AFTER
WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT AND WE FIGURE OUT THE FIRE
FEE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS
ADDED, "SO BRING IT BACK AFTER THAT -TABLE IT." FURTHERMORE,
COMMISSIONER KREBS REMARKED, "I WAS MAKING A MOTION TO
TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS FIRE FEE." SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese noted an Appeal to the Sign Code Case related to advertising.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report as Commissioner Miller was no longer telephonically in attendance at this
Regular Meeting.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on Economic Development comments made by
Sabrina O'Bryan with Seminole County.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "SHE GAVE AVERY -POINTED AND
DIRECT AND CONCISE PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR DEVELOPING
AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM AND HOW TO GO ABOUT
DOING THAT IN YOUR CITIES.
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AND, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE
SCHEDULE HER TO DO THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR US AT SOME
POINT IN THE FUTURE AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE
PRESENTATIONS SECTION, BECAUSE I THINK THE INFORMATION SHE
HAS IS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE."
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "IT IS A MOTION."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "DURING A REGULAR MEETING -
TWENTY (20) MINUTES AT THE MOST."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
No Report as Commissioner Gilmore was no longer in attendance at this Regular
Meeting.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
No Report.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
No Report.
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
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Mayor Bush mentioned a letter from Chairman Brenda Carey of Seminole County related
to Enclaves. Mayor Bush then noted, "If the Commission has no objection, I would like
to go to the County Commission and ask them to explain it a little more thoroughly."
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then noted, "What I will need -from Randy [Stevenson] or Eloise
[Sahlstrom] is -the Joint Planning Agreement that we have with the County, the
attachment is very hard to read - it shows the areas of the Enclaves that were potential
Annexations - I would like to have one that was better."
Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Are you asking that we do a new attachment that represents the
one that was attached in [19]87?" Mayor Bush remarked, "Yes." Ms. Sahlstrom added,
"To transfer it to a new map so it's more readable?" Mayor Bush stated, "Right."
Deputy Mayor McGinnis then said to Deputy Mayor McGinnis, "Will you let us know
Mayor?" Attorney Garganese asked Mayor Bush, "Do you want to show them the map
in 1987 or do you want to show them the current..." Mayor Bush added, "... We would
show them both I guess, if it is possible."
Following up, Mayor Bush asked, "Is there some way that we could show [19]'87 and
then color code it such to say this has been annexed, this still hasn't been, and that is what
we asked for. Is that possible?" Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Sure." Mayor Bush added,
"Let me know when you are ready, and then I will schedule to go to the County." Ms.
Sahlstrom commented, "Okay."
PUBLIC INPUT
No one requested to address the City Commission at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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502. Not Used.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
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601. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requests The Commission To Provide Guidance In Regards To The Abatement Of ~~
Public Nuisance Such As The Mowing Of Properties That Remain In Violation Of
City Code. ~.
Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department.
Much discussion.
Manager McLemore commented on a Hearing Officer, to which Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said that was also of interest to her.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND I
REALLY THINK WE SHOULD RE-EVALUATE IT, SHOULD IT BECOME A
PROBLEM -THEN IN THE MEANTIME -LET'S BRING BACK SOME
INFORMATION ON THE HEARING OFFICER THAT THE CITY MANAGER
BROUGHT UP." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
602. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information And Requesting City Commission
Input Regarding The Proposed Pedestrian Bridge Over Howell Creek At Northern
Wav.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department spoke on this Agenda
Item and reviewed options with the City Commission.
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"MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE ~'
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYES
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The Mayor ~,'
Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution ~~ :~-
2008-17 Related To Supporting The Florida League Of Cities, Inc. And The Florida
Green Building Coalition's Green Local Government Program.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-17]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of Mayor
Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution
2008-18 Related To Supporting The Continued Funding Of The Florida Forever
Program Or A Possible Successor Program Which Would Support Florida
Communities Trust.
Mayor Bush introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-18]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned that the white railing near Trotwood Park
looked bad. Mr. Lockcuff noted that the railing was painted late last week.
Regarding a date for a site visit to Bart Phillips' property, Mayor Bush stated, "Let's do it
Friday afternoon..." Commissioner McGinnis added, "...Friday afternoon is good..."
Mayor Bush then stated, "...Two o'clock." No objections were noted. Mayor Bush said
to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Would you let Commissioners Miller and Gilmore know
Friday, two o'clock -the 14t" [of March]. Shall we meet here?" No objections were
noted.
Manager McLemore mentioned a Bill before the Legislature to make it unlawful for the
City to belong to the Florida -Municipal League. You could belong if you want to, you
just couldn't pay a membership to it." Manager McLemore added, "I will send that to
you tomorrow."
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he was sending a letter to Representative Hukill related to
a House Bill dealing with Public Input at Commission Meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:46 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, March 10, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present (via telephone)
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:17 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1 Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Hear A Presentation From Government Services
Group Regarding Assessment Rates For The Fire Assessment Program In The City
Of Winter Springs.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and noted, "What
you're not doing tonight is setting rates, you're not approving -the first Resolution.
You're simply getting an update on how the second alternative to the initial assessment
model that you reviewed, how that's playing out at this point in time."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:17 p. m.
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Continuing, Manager McLemore remarked, "You do have before you Adoption of the
Ordinance. The Ordinance is an enabling Ordinance, it simply gives you the authority to
do this if you like. Nothing in it compels you to do anything. There are cities and
counties out there who have had this Ordinance on their books for years, who have never
chosen to go forward and implement, but you cannot go forward and implement if you
don't pass this Ordinance -that's State Law." Discussion.
Ms. Camille Tharpe, Senior Vice President, Government Services Group, Inc., 1 S00
Mahan Drive, Suite 250, Tallahassee, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this
issue and mentioned that we will have the rates in two (2) weeks.
A PowerPoint presentation was displayed.
Discussion.
With further discussion, Ms. Tharpe said, "By the time and service - we have identified,
the fact that they are right now taking up about twelve percent (12%) of the man hours
within the City in the multi-family category. So, whether or not we have one (1) category
that ends up being about eighty-two percent (82%) and is all residential, or whether we
keep two (2) separate categories is still something we are working on. But, you will have
that in two (2) weeks."
Continuing, Ms. Tharpe stated, "Your implementation schedule as Mr. McLemore said
tonight, you are going to Adopt the Ordinance which is a procedural Ordinance; does not
put this in place at all. Basically, it gives you the authority and the laws and the
procedures to move forward. On the 24`h, you will have the initial Assessment
Resolution. We'll be back before you and all of this we've gone over, we'll go over one
(1) more time and we will show you rates and we will show you examples of those rates
for different properties."
Discussion continued.
With discussion on receiving information prior to the next Meeting, Commissioner
Joanne M. Krebs noted, "We need time to digest this information." Commissioner Krebs
then stated, "I really would urge you to get me that information before the Meeting." Ms.
Tharpe said, "I agree. We will try."
Further discussion.
Ms. Tharpe stated, "There will be no charge for undeveloped land." Ms. Tharp then
remarked, "The demand for service is not there."
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Discussion followed on multi-family properties.
Ms. Tharpe explained, "To us, amulti-family property would be your apartments greater
than -three (3) units or more and condominiums -single family would be single family
dwelling units and your mobile home parks and your mobile homes would be in your
single family." Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked, "So, your break off point was three
(3) units then?" Ms. Tharpe said, "Yes."
Mayor Bush asked, "Where would they fit on your classification?" Ms. Tharpe said,
"They are on Class 7. They are still in Class 7."
Mayor Bush then inquired, "New construction requires pretty extensive sprinklering
systems. Is there any kind of an adjustment for that?" Ms. Tharpe stated, "Again, that's
one of those outstanding issues and when we come back before you in two (2) weeks, we
will have an answer to that."
Discussion.
Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "Did you say that we are the first ones out of the box
with this, so you don't have any numbers that will come back and say `How close to
existing total dollars out of pocket' on the part of the homeowner this will come to?"
Ms. Tharpe said, "Not tonight. We will have it before your next Meeting and I guarantee
you it will be a better - it will track better or should track better to what they've been
paying under taxes, because of the fact that the value of property -usually it's tied to how
much square footage of the building there is. So, at least on the residential side, it will
track a whole lot better than the other one, because that was just a flat rate."
Commissioner Brown stated, "I want to echo Commissioner Krebs' statement that I
really do not want to receive this information on the date that we are supposed to vote on
it."
Discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I would have to echo what Commissioner Krebs
and Commissioner Brown said and that is that I think it would be incumbent upon you to
if at all possible, to provide the data to us at the next Meeting."
Discussion continued.
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With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "And Ron (McLemore), I asked you in a
Meeting prior to that in September to bring us back real information; applied information
- to the residents' taxes and we never; you said you would, but we never received that.
And you even admitted that had you had that information, or you wish you had had that
information to give to us, because I honestly believe that we would have looked at this a
little bit differently and maybe looked at something, a hybrid of some sort a little closer
had we had that information at that time."
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Dale Kirby 122 Seville Chase Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
changes in the Reports and suggested the City Commission further review this.
Mr. Edward Martinez, 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of
soundness; the Millage Rate; and asked about the number of fires from last year.
Mr. Andy Brown, 242 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about taxes;
spending; and asked that cuts be considered.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Consultants' Fees; the newly proposed Fire Service Fees; and not overburdening the
residents.
Ms. Ginny Decker, 30 Golf Terrace Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: working for
Mosswood Apartments, Ms. Decker commented on higher rents and increasing rates.
Discussion.
Ms. Pamela Tucker, 3303 Sutton Drive, Orlando, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Pamela
Tucker is opposed and does not wish to address the City Commission. She is a Property
Manager."
Mr. Ellsworth Grimsley, 790 Oakland Hills Circle, Lake Mary, Florida: representing
Legends of Winter Springs Apartments, Mr. Grimsley spoke about rates; the current
apartment market; Fire Services needed for apartment complexes; and loss of value to
this property.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore departed the Meeting at 6:32 p. m.
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Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: referenced a
document he distributed and commented on costs related to a proposed Assessment;
square footage data; and a draft report he did related to Hacienda Village.
Mr. Gary Bonner, 1581 Warrington Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
public safety; Fire Services being a Budget issue and not a public safety issue; and
suggested reducing other costs before imposing a new Fee.
Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: representing Seville On
The Green, Mr. Sandidge spoke about Amendment 1; and suggested that essential
services not be cut.
Mr. Harry Heist, 155 Dundee Road, Fort Myers Beach, Florida: as General Counsel to
the Florida Apartment Association, Mr. Heist addressed the City Commission on
appraised values; net worth; and said that apartments should not pay the same fee as
single family homes.
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Mr. Bill St. Armour, 645 Marlin Road, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the Ordinance
not be passed and that other options be considered.
Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about
money concerns; and suggested the City Commission go back to the drawing board.
Mayor Bush recognized Mr. Pellerin as a former City Commissioner.
Ms. Vivian Colon, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on
behalf of apartment communities and Rock Management, Ms. Colon remarked about
increased costs they will have to pass on to their residents.
Mr. Jeff McCall: representing the Winter Springs Professional Firefighters Union, Mr.
McCall commented on the Budget process and needed Capital outlays.
Ms. Maria Camps, 440 Courtney Springs Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as an
employee of Rock Management, Ms. Camps commented on costs and Fire Services.
Ms. Barbi Thomson, 811 Contravest Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: as the property
manager for the Legends of Winter Springs, Ms. Thompson said she was opposed to this
and mentioned that with increased rents, residents may have to move to cheaper areas.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input "portion of the Agenda Item.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2 Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Approve Final Reading Of Ordinance 2008-01
Which Provides For The Implementation Of A Fire Assessment Program In The
City Of Winter Springs.
Manager McLemore said, "This Ordinance does a couple of things - it provides you the
authority to you to implement an Assessment District if you so approve, so desire. It also
adds I believe, into -the provisions for a hardship agreement, as well as the payment
plan."
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Lennon (Chip) Tatum, 1005 Altamonte Court, Oviedo, Florida: as the Director of
Education and Government Affairs for the Apartment Association of Greater Orlando,
Mr. Tatum commented on the proposed payment plan; a similar Ordinance; and
implementation costs.
Commissioner Miller's call was disconnected at 7:15 p. m.
Ms. Frankie Elliott, 1330 Lee Road, Orlando, Florida: as the Vice President
Governmental Affairs for the Orlando Regional Realtors Association, Ms. Elliott
remarked about the market; taxes and fees; and the methodology.
Mr. Laurent Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
taxes.
Mr. Dennis Sandidge, 2525 Dark Oak Court, Oviedo, Florida: mentioned that no one
had asked for this Fee.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Water Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on a
data base related to the square footage of properties and that no impact study had been
submitted by the Consultants.
Commissioner Miller was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.•17 p.m.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore was connected via a Conference call at approximately 7.• 17 p. m.
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Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that no
caps were suggested on this Fire Service Fee; and spoke of Capital Improvements not
completed yet.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs mentioned her concern with incomplete information. With further
comments, Commissioner Brown also requested completed information before making a
decision. Manager McLemore noted, "You certainly have that option of not addressing
the Ordinance until the next Meeting when you have that additional information given to
you.
With discussion, Commissioner Miller asked, "If we delay the approval of this Ordinance
for two (2) weeks, until the 24`h - of March, at that point, the information would be
available on the individual rates that we would be hearing about tonight but we don't
have the precise data; is that going to cause any problems in the implementation of this?"
Manager McLemore responded by saying, "No."
Commissioner Miller then noted, "If the - GSG (Government Services Group, Inc.) data
is not really written right and it takes us another two (2) or three (3) months to get where
we need to be, I think we are going to be in very serious financial problems and I think
that is something that you may want to look into and have an answer for this, two (2)
weeks from tonight."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller said, "I think it would be appropriate to make a
Motion, one of us, to Postpone to the following Meeting -for two (2) weeks and preserve
all the advertising."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN CLARIFIED, "MOTION TO POSTPONE."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "POINT OF CLARIFICATION -
POSTPONE TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING?" THERE WERE
NO OBJECTIONS NOTED.
CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES ASKED, "AND THAT IS
PRESERVING ADVERTISING?" NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7: 30 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7.•50 p. m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE
REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2"d Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-02, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1379 SR (State
Road) 434 (NE [Northeast] Corner Of SR [State Road] 434 And SR [State Road]
417), Equaling Approximately 6.25 Acres And Owned By David And Betty Long.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department briefly spoke on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 2/Side B
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department -Customer Service Division
Updating The City Commission On The Expired Building Permit Status.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At
The Winter Springs Civic Center.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department answered questions related
to this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on addressing budget expenditures at another time.
Mayor Bush inquired of Mr. Pula, "Does the rental that we receive cover the costs of staff
and -electricity, heat, air conditioning?" Mr. Pula stated, "No it does not." Mayor Bush
added, "Then we need to raise the rent." Commissioner Brown suggested, "It needs to be
self-funded."
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INFORMATIONAL
103. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding Its Involvement With Winter
Springs Elementary School And The Field Of Dreams.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEM WAS INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST
OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
102. Parks And Recreation Department
Inform The City Commission Of The Improvements Attempted And Completed At
The Winter Springs Civic Center.
"THE MOTION IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK
INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE COST COVERAGE RATE WOULD
BE FOR THE RENTAL OF THE COMMUNITY CIVIC CENTER." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2009 Budget
Calendar.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
201. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requesting City Commission Review And Approval Of Amended Code
Enforcement Board Policv And Procedures.
Discussion.
Manager McLemore noted, "This is being filed with you just purely as Information."
Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record that this should have been an Informational
Agenda Item.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-16 Expressing Appreciation To
Jim Wentz For His Service On The Code Enforcement Board.
No discussion.
CONSENT
203. Utility/Public Works Department -Capital Projects Division
Requesting Approval For The Extension Of The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program
(HMGP) Agreement For The Senior Center And Civic Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING THREE (3) CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY NEXT, FOLLOWED BY
FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up
To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc.,
Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And
Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
CONSENT
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier
Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With
The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009;
And July 4, 2010.
CONSENT
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando
Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
Brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS -TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION RELATED TO BUDGETARY IMPACT FROM THE FIRE FEE.
IT IS A MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
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Discussion ensued with Attorney Garganese on removing these Agenda Items from the
Consent Agenda.
Mayor Bush stated, "So the Motion should be to remove this from Consent Agenda?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I MOVE WE REMOVE ITEM `204' FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND
HEAR IT SEPARATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER
BROWN ADDED, "[`20]4', [`20]5', AND [`20]6'."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Krebs stated, "That was [`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6'." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "That was `205' also..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "... [`20]4',
[`20]5' -and [`20]6'." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush clarified,
"[`20]4', [`20]5', and [`20]6"' have been removed from the Consent Agenda."
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
207. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 1 To The Project Agreement
With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (MRCS), And ARight-Of--Entry
Agreement With The Hacienda Village Co-Op For The Gee Creek Bank
Stabilization Project.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
208. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With CAPTEC
Engineering, Inc. To Provide Professional Engineering Services For The Gee Creek
Bank Stabilization Project At Hacienda Village.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
209. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Extend The First Addendum To The Effluent
Disposal Easement Agreement With Tuscawilla Country Club.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
210. Utility Department
Requesting Approval For The Purchase Of One (1) Ford F-350 Truck With A
Utility Body.
Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works Department.
CONSENT
211. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Ford F250 4X4 Pick Up Truck With
Utility Body By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Number 06-
14-0821.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
212. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter In A Contractual Agreement For The
Installation Of Roadway Underdrains On Winter Springs Boulevard.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
213. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
No discussion.
CONSENT
214. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The February 25, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
215. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 3, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [CONSENT AGENDA, NOT INCLUDING CONSENT
AGENDA ITEMS `204', `205', AND `206']." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID "THEY [`204', `205', AND `206']
ARE ALREADY REMOVED." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, PREVIOUSLY
LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY
NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED.
.;..;.
CONSENT AGENDA
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staffs Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2008, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorize The Expenditure Of Up
To $27,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc.,
Premier Pyrotechnics For A 30 Minute Fireworks Display Up To $24,000.00, And
Up To $16,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Proposal (Bid) Of Premier
Pyrotechnics And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A 3 Year Contract With
The Approved Proposal For A Fireworks Display On July 4, 2008; July 4, 2009;
And July 4, 2010.
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And CBS Radio Orlando
Broadcasting For July 4, 2008, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
"WHY CAN'T WE JUST TAKE AN ACTION TO TABLE THEM UNTIL AFTER
WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT AND WE FIGURE OUT THE FIRE
FEE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. COMMISSIONER KREBS
ADDED, "SO BRING IT BACK AFTER THAT -TABLE IT." FURTHERMORE,
COMMISSIONER KREBS REMARKED, "I WAS MAKING A MOTION TO
TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS FIRE FEE." SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese noted an Appeal to the Sign Code Case related to advertising.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report as Commissioner Miller was no longer telephonically in attendance at this
Regular Meeting.
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on Economic Development comments made by
Sabrina O'Bryan with Seminole County.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "SHE GAVE AVERY -POINTED AND
DIRECT AND CONCISE PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR DEVELOPING
AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM AND HOW TO GO ABOUT
DOING THAT IN YOUR CITIES.
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AND, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION THAT WE
SCHEDULE HER TO DO THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR US AT SOME
POINT IN THE FUTURE AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE
PRESENTATIONS SECTION, BECAUSE I THINK THE INFORMATION SHE
HAS IS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE."
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "IT IS A MOTION."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "DURING A REGULAR MEETING -
TWENTY (20) MINUTES AT THE MOST."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
No Report as Commissioner Gilmore was no longer in attendance at this Regular
Meeting.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
No Report.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
No Report.
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned a letter from Chairman Brenda Carey of Seminole County related
to Enclaves. Mayor Bush then noted, "If the Commission has no objection, I would like
to go to the County Commission and ask them to explain it a little more thoroughly."
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then noted, "What I will need -from Randy [Stevenson] or Eloise
[Sahlstrom] is -the Joint Planning Agreement that we have with the County, the
attachment is very hard to read - it shows the areas of the Enclaves that were potential
Annexations - I would like to have one that was better."
Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Are you asking that we do a new attachment that represents the
one that was attached in [ 19] 87?" Mayor Bush remarked, "Yes." Ms. Sahlstrom added,
"To transfer it to a new map so it's more readable?" Mayor Bush stated, "Right."
Deputy Mayor McGinnis then said to Deputy Mayor McGinnis, "Will you let us know
Mayor?" Attorney Garganese asked Mayor Bush, "Do you want to show them the map
in 1987 or do you want to show them the current..." Mayor Bush added, "... We would
show them both I guess, if it is possible."
Following up, Mayor Bush asked, "Is there some way that we could show [ 19]' 87 and
then color code it such to say this has been annexed, this still hasn't been, and that is what
we asked for. Is that possible?" Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Sure." Mayor Bush added,
"Let me know when you are ready, and then I will schedule to go to the County." Ms.
Sahlstrom commented, "Okay."
PUBLIC INPUT
No one requested to address the City Commission at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Not Used.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Not Used.
REGULAR
601. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requests The Commission To Provide Guidance In Regards To The Abatement Of
Public Nuisance Such As The Mowing Of Properties That Remain In Violation Of
City Code.
Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department.
Much discussion.
Manager McLemore commented on a Hearing Officer, to which Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said that was also of interest to her.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND I
REALLY THINK WE SHOULD RE-EVALUATE IT, SHOULD IT BECOME A
PROBLEM -THEN IN THE MEANTIME -LET'S BRING BACK SOME
INFORMATION ON THE HEARING OFFICER THAT THE CITY MANAGER
BROUGHT UP." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
602. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information And Requesting City Commission
Input Regarding The Proposed Pedestrian Bridge Over Howell Creek At Northern
Wav.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department spoke on this Agenda
Item and reviewed options with the City Commission.
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"MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNI5: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The Mayor
Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution
2008-17 Related To Supporting The Florida League Of Cities, Inc. And The Florida
Green Building Coalition's Green Local Government Program.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-17]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of Mayor
Asking The City Commission To Review And Approve The Attached Resolution
2008-18 Related To Supporting The Continued Funding Of The Florida Forever
Program Or A Possible Successor Program Which Would Support Florida
Communities Trust.
Mayor Bush introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [RESOLUTION 2008-18]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned that the white railing near Trotwood Park
looked bad. Mr. Lockcuff noted that the railing was painted late last week.
Regarding a date for a site visit to Bart Phillips' property, Mayor Bush stated, "Let's do it
Friday afternoon..." Commissioner McGinnis added, "...Friday afternoon is good..."
Mayor Bush then stated, "...Two o'clock." No objections were noted. Mayor Bush said
to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Would you let Commissioners Miller and Gilmore know
Friday, two o'clock -the 14th [of March]. Shall we meet here?" No objections were
noted.
Manager McLemore mentioned a Bill before the Legislature to make it unlawful for the
City to belong to the Florida -Municipal League. You could belong if you want to, you
just couldn't pay a membership to it." Manager McLemore added, "I will send that to
you tomorrow."
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he was sending a letter to Representative Hukill related to
a House Bill dealing with Public Input at Commission Meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:46 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
AND A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
A O vED:
M' OR 3(~HN<l~. $USH
NOTE: These Minr~its were approved at the March 24, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.